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TO ABOOK ENTITVLED T H E
HOLY T A B L E
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OCT 2 S 1986
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TO THE KINGS
MOST EXCELLENT
A f E S ff I E,
CHARLES,
BYTHEQRACEOFGon
King of Great Britafnc,France,and
Ireland, Defender of the Faith,&c.
Moft cf read Soveraigne :
Our Majeflies extmpla- rie piety in the houfe of
d^J 7 .7 n i . -^ ,_
> hath fired itfdfe abroad amonpfl all
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jour Subjects ; and they , We M Troficients in
ook of piety JtJtbej not profit very
much
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THE EPISTLE
much under fucb a Ma/ler. Your T(oy all and religious care, that all things in jour "K^all fyappeh be done accord ing to the prefcript ofthcpuMc{Liturgie> andw* dent ufage of tbu Church,, u a prevailing motive unto ally our people ,not to be bact. ward in conformity to fuel) an eminent' part of jour Trincdj vcrtues.Suchamofl excellent pattcrnc would foonc find an uni~ V erf all inter tainmcnt in the hearts of men . were there notjomc, the enemies as we/I of pictj^s publicly Order, that dijjmdefrom both. S^oncin tbh kind more faulty than an obfcure and namclejje Miniftcr of Lincoln Diocek,wad//courfco/hi*not long fincepublificd. ?A man that maizes a frort of your ^S^/Iajc/lics Cbappcls,asba- WHotjtA. ting nner ("0 bcxrd of the nfe of the
cle.p. 3®. x i t "^
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, nor read of any ordering anddi~ (b) ibi P 83, r<Sing courfe from the <%>yall fyappells . S4 s j,^r. and puts a fcorne upon ( b ) the piety of
the
DEDICATORIE.
the times , w- being fo inclinable (by your moftf acred Matl™ divine example} to de~ cencie and uniformity in Gods public^ fertice. J\£ayja>hereM in the 'Primitive times y the holy Altars, as they then ufed to call the Communion Yables(for other Al~ tars they Were notjwre eficemcdfofacrcd, that Wen f c ) the barbarous Souldiers ho- (
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noured them with affectionate fa yes : tlm Alcana, Oe man expojethtbcm to contempt and fcait* ^.J.5 p^"^1 , £/4/f, utfnotermei were vile enough to ^nc'Es' be/low upon them. 3\(or dealcs he(u r^-i* otherypifc'ftith thcmy riboout of their due to Cjod, and for the honour ofth(L~> ormation again/I the unjufl imputa tions of tbof~e of Itymc, and thcprocu~ ringC) tf due reverence to Chrijls bo-
ly Sacraments C too much flighted tn thefe
• i«ii •
times, and in many places') ha^e tra*vai+
led to reduce thi* Church to tlwt ancient Order , which hath bccne hitherto pre*
A 3 fervid
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Jened in jow ^Majejiiet v . and the (^athedrallsoftbts ^ingdome^^ (OH./;r*. whom he bath openly traduced, us (') if
of
, and meant in time to boxe a • boutvitbtbefortitfelfe. In this regard,. J though it vat my boitnden duty ion- prefent unto jour s5Majefliet faith/ull and obedient Su\>]Ss the trm condition of the bu/ine/e fo by him calumniated! wether with the dSrine and conttnuaU uftge both of the Trimitiie Qm& of Chrift, in tkelfbrld abroad , and tbe-> 'Reformed QMK\> of Cbrifl in tbi* your ^MMftiet^lme of England. Which vorle^, as it wets principally attended to fettle and confrine the tnindes of your ' iZMa'yflict people , vlwu fame b<Tte-> U loured to ftffcje t»itb predicate fears : fo to the end it may receive amongtt them 4 more faire admittance, 1 bate prefmed
to
JJKDICATORIE.
to pro/Irate loth mjjelfe and it , at jour <Rf>y all feet jtith that humility and , rencewbicb bejl becomes
• moft obedient Subjcft,
• mod dutiful! Chaplain*,
PET: HITLIN?
PREFACE TO THE
GRAVE, LEARNED,
and religious Clergie of *th^ Dioccfle of L i N c o L N.
» T is well noted by the Poet, that the f -) rcmc Jy (,) Sc «i me*.
oth come too late, when onccthetnifchicfcis cina pmuir, conhrmcd and fctlcd by too lonq c'clayes. And v':"ni mi1-1 P-r thereupon he hath advifed u^Frincipiiscbfare lo"M mv-ll~~ tocrn(h a fpreading evil even in the be?in>un<>'f before it gather head, ,ind become i-cur.-.bic0- Onthisconfideranonl applyed my fclfc to the pre/c;Kbui ncflejandfo apply ed my felfc unto ir,that it mi-he come unro your view with all fpccd convenient, before tl-at any contrary perfvvafion, by what great name foevcr countenanced fhould take too deep a root in any ofyoti, to be thcce eafily removed. In the beginning of Afnrch lafr, there peered into the wc-rid abooke entituled The hol} Talte, N<i»,f andTkir.^ faid to be Written /*/»f^f by a ^/»i/?^ ,„ LincchpArc, n, Ilt.fu-fr to £> Coale, 4j*£ct*tu Divive cf f)ueeKe Maries d . Mld ptntedfrrtbeDmefe of Lincoln^. 1637. Sothat bcmi; writ- lcnbyaMinifterinI,/««/».jS/^, andpiinted fonhe Diuccfc olLuicotoi who would conceive but that it was intended for the private ufe of you, the Clergie of thofc parts, and not to hmbeencica«ercd;asic was,ovcrall the Kiagdume : Hut
being
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being Co fairc a Babc,*nd borne in fucha lacky tidure it w5uH
crve his lurnc the better, to procure the viflory A ftran^ and cruell kmdc 1'
£; Plutarch i» as tothe living; with both of which he dealcs, as did'/V/ I * </e. CTiiftes with his canrive* tfV-^,»,'«, -,?->. ~. . ' ~ .
ted." that the bookeie
av. -
DC! n n ^ !f !lthc Icadl"^ tale'& ^'^» « front of pur- poc to make good the entrance; fo doth it give a good cflay .
t^cS^^£"7& ^ich vvcarelilc to finl
dreflt ' TJ hu c^.eto«d ofthehoufc by the trimmeor
IdinkC U ichly furnifhcd^ The wals there- ec OM with Antl^e Han&ingsj
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and whatsoever coftly workmanfhip all Nations of thefe times may bee thought to bragge of ; and every part adorned with flourilhcs, and pretty pattimcs, and gay devices of the Painter : Nor is there any want at all of Ornaments or Vterfls to fet out the fame;fuch cfpecially as may fcrvc for oftemation, though of Httlc ufejmany a fine and fubtile Carper, not a few idle Couches for the credulous reader, and every where a Pil low for a Puritaus Elbow ; all very plcafing to the eye, bat flightoffubftancej counterfeit fluffs' moft or it, and wrought with fbmnch fraud, and falQiood, that there is hardly one trueftitch in all the Worke : From the beginning to the end, our Mwfler is ftill the fame, no Changeling :
d - Servtturtd im*m, GO Hor. dc
<$*alis al> incorpt ' Arcc<
And yet if all thefe fiffraudes (for fo they mud be thought info grave a Aiinifter) didaime at nothing elfe, than to ad vance the reputation cf his lioljT^yu \ the anfwcring of his work had been more proper for another Advctfary. The holy T^blt hith no enemies in the Church of England ; and there fore he is faine to flic to/? omty\.o finde out tome that are */&*• medofthftmmetfthe Lords Tdle. Butfoitis.that under tH pretence of fetting up his holy Table, this Miniftcr hath difper- fcd throughout hisbooke, iuch principles of faftion, fchifnte, and diftbedience , that even that Table alfo is made Afnare to thofc,who,cither out of weaknefle, or too great a ftomack,do greedily devoure what ever is there fet before them. So vene- BKIUS a difcourfc requires an Antidote , a timely and a prefent Antidote, before the malignity of the poyfon be diffufed too far; and therefore I thought fit to provide one rcady,and to in- fcribc it unto you,the learned and religious Clergic of thc/^w- ttft of Line, for whom, and for whole ufe alone, that worthy work of his,whofoever he be,muft be pretended to be printed. Yetfo, that any others may be made partakers of it, whofc judgment & affections have been, or are diflcpered by fo lewd a praftifer; who cares not if the Church were in a combuftion,
fo
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fo he : may warme his hands by the flame thereof. The Author wha hc», » notyecd fcoyeredj all that is open y rcveffi
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ca!ls him-
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belecve the 1 itle-pagc, was writ long agoe, in
? u *• ';W(Ww* filww "/^«^ Maries ^y« - buc
thcr oft, than now , religion nevermore a, he better telcd *
both : So that the fupp.fition f a bcoke r °
This faaions figment thus re/efled.all that is leftus to find
out hu Author nn,ft be colleftc J by the ftyle and argament,
hough that pcrhpp, will givtasbui a blind dilcoven 'The
•rgu.nent.botli in the maine.and on the by, fliewes that hee is
v ** old *a^*p?£*R*5*
<^flw«inKingft«w/histimc( in cafehes
be
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be not forhe remainder of that fcattercd company; which hi therto hath hid his head, and now thrndsout with Bajlwick^t PrinHt, and Barton, to difturbe the State, The (tile compofcd indifferently of Mtrtin <JttArre-Prel*te, and Tom Nfifi : as^ fcurn'lous and full of folly, as the one ; as (candalous and rail of faction, as the other was, Which, howfoevcr it mayplcafe young heads, and fuch as are affected, as the Writer is ; yet it gives jud offence. to the grave and learned, who would have ierious matters handled in a ferious manner. They that can finde him cutby either of thefe Cktratttrt, mud have more knowledge of the Dioceflc, than 1 dare pretend to; who am pronounced before- hand, and by way of challcngc,tobc none of the Voifin*gefto& confecjucmly no fit man to be returned of the Incjuefl. Oncly J have made bold our of my care and zealc to the common good, to give ytuthis fliort notice of him ; that if by chance youfhould encounter with him any where in his private walkes, you may take heed led hec fcciucc you by his practifes ; and in the meane time be foi warned, left he mifguide you by his writings, For comming in the habit of a neighbour Miwfler^ efpccially being recommended to you,for one fo Orthodox in dotlrine, Ani (onfonant in difcipline tt the Church of England ; you might perchance be ap: ro give cre dit to him, and lend too credulous an care to his flic temptati ons. Therefore to favc that title which the Church hath in you, and to preferve that intcred which it claimcs in your bed affections • I have adventured to put in thi. Caveat, in tl e Churches name; which if you (hruld neglect, as 1 lope you will not, I mud bee forced in maintenance of her tight and in- tered, to bring my double quarre/l. Doolies of a popular argu ment, and followed in a popular way, are commonly much chcriflVedby that race of men, who love totunnccr; (Tctoall publicke order. And therefore irconccrnes. all Chorclnnen, and you cfpecially of that Dtocefe , for whic!) thut worthy Worke was Printed,to have a wife and timely c.arc;thu: thole which are committed to your feveral! charges, bee rightly Lai- lanced ; and not inveigled and abufed by the neat lulxlttics of thofe, who onely labour to deceive them*
And
(f)ViJcScft.
Tk frtfitce.
And it conccrnes us all, the rather, bccaufe thofefa&icnt
andfchifrrmicall Pamphlets, that came out with,and fincc the good Minijttrs Booke, feeme to indeavour nothing, more, than ro pott'clfe mens mindcs, as before I faid, with dangerous and defpcrate, thouglMnoft ncedleflc feares,that all things goe not right amongft QJ. The placing of the holy Table inthat comly forr.as is moft covenant to the praclife of the Primitive times, and to thagcncrall ufagcofall fahcdfati iu this King. dom,andhis Ma Jellies CLippetsyg\vtn out by folfc and factious men ; oncly to bee a preamble to a greater change. And ho w- foever initfelfe it bee a matter of indifferent nature, andfo acknowledged to bee both by the ^//*»/?<rrhimfelfc, good man,and by the writer of the letter to the Vicar <&GrA*thAm'y and that the Table be fo placed in his Lordfhips Chapptll, (by \vhom the Minilhrs booke was allowed and licenced ) as is ' cllc where laid ; this comes all to one; For place them how they will in Cttkedrall Churches, his Majeuics and tl^e Hi- fKops Cbappe!/, and bee the matter fo inditferent, as no one thing more ; yet take we heed we doe not phce them Altar- wife in P*m7.>/W/€hurchcs.Rarhcr tlian foypaore people muft bee frighted with wee know not what, and cold that-tkerc is Ibmcwhat in it which is worth their fcarcs; fotne thing thac mainly tends unto the alteration cf religion, -hereby law e(ta- blifhed. As if the Table could not ftand whcrethe AltAr did, or be placed tsf/t*ir-wife all along the wall ; but it muft needs imply feme Popffi and prohibited fncrificc, to be intended for the fame, though not yet ready to be 6ftered. In which moft falfcand fcandalous imputations, as all the Pamphlets of thcfc times arc extremely guilty ; fo there is none more pofitivc in it, than this Mi*ifter cf Lincolne Diocese. " Thefe new Refor- ' #>ers ( I delire you to (-bferve his words ) though they pre- ' pare and lay grounds for the fame, dare not ( for feare of fo ' many lawes and Canons) apparently profefre this £/!?*/»»/*» ' doctrine. They arc as yet bulled in taking in the out- works, 1 and that being done, they may in time have a bout with the " Fort it fclfe. A fpeech of that fchifmaticall, fadious, and fcditious nature, that greater of thai kinde was never uttered
by
by S^fwekft £*J*o», Burton, Prynrt, ortrry peftilentPAfqriill of the prefcnt, w^ </*w in any of the former times, And though you may con/c&ure ex prdt Htrctf/a»r what you are like to find* by this, in the whole bulke of thcdifcourfc : yet for your better fatisfa&ion, I will lay before you, as byway of Parallel, the harmony or agreement which is betwceue him in his bolj 7*<*£/*,and H. Burton in his late fcciitious Sermons and A- po/opy. Not in the language onely, which is in both folike.and fo full of clamour, as if they had but one pen betwecne them, but in their fa^iousandfchifmaticall pofhion*, in which they doc agree fofwectly. Which done, it frail bee left to you to confide: of it, whether it may bccpoflGble that they fhotild jump fo even, ialo many paflages, by mcerc infpirarion, and the cnthufiafinc ofthe fame ill fpirit, or that they rather fell uporTit, (as. /*£/*>•/ fomctimcs doe their tricks ) by combina tion and confederacy.
ThfLAtinifltr if Lincoln. Mr. BttrtM »f L*ndo*.
THefc Ntvt Reforaurs, though they prepare and lay grounds for ihe fame, dare notffor fcarc of fo many laws and Canons ) apparently pro- fefle this E/tntfiaLtn dtttrine. They are as yet buficd in ukc- ing in the out-workcs , and that being done, they may in time have a bout with the
THey mud firft with Tables, and up with Altars t &c. F nd what then I Surely a Prirft is nor farre oft. Hut where is the f«c nfce ? Stay a while ; true fervicc comes lift, and all thcl'c are preparations unto it. S° a* a'-l thcfe Preambles d.>e at lafi u/her in the great God of the hoft, fo foone as it i? well bi- ked;and the pccples ftomatk* fitted to digcft fo hard a bi:.
1 appetle to any indifferent Well, yet a railc muft bee men, that pretend to any made about it»toinftnuate in- knowledge in Pivinity; if tbi topcopltsmindcsan opiniott
• TbeTreftce.
ef Lincoln. Mr. Burton of London.
Pew, the Pulpit, or any other place in the Churchj be nor as properly an Ahar,as is our holy Table, howfoever
A number of our Churches have their lies of fuch a per fect Croflc, that they cannot poflibly fee either high Alt*nt or fo much as the Chanccll. p . 124.
Without which tranfoo- ftng of cht Tablc,thc Miniitcr, were he that Stentor with the fides of braflc,could never bee heard of his congregation.^. 304.
of fome cxcr aor^'naty fan&i- tie in the T*6/e, more than in other places of the Church, as the PH/pittPeyptoT Font .p. 33.
When they mwft ufe no prayer at all after the Sermon, but come downe, and rcadc a fecond or ihird Service atthe Alt*ry wherein great Chur ches halfe the people cannot he arc a word./w/.i yo.
Reading a fecond Service at the Altar,whcrccvciunle(ler Chtucheb", the people cannot poffibly heare without a Stcn- toriotts voice of the Minifter. In the Epiftlo to the-King^
Our Communion fliall bee at the fooneft our fourth, and by no me.ines our
It fecmcs by you, wee arc bound oncly topr^y, but not to fpcakc the words of the Ca.
And readc a feeond, or third Service at the Alt*r.f<tg.
When they forbid Mini- ftcrs to ufe any fryer before their Sermons , but the bare and barren forme of words in
<Bod is afwell God of the Wett,North,and South^s hce;
Pr.iying with their faces tq% wards the Ea(i,; thus 'tying'
igofthe Eaft : and it is *»//& to make him more propi tious in anyone corner of the world, thanhee is in another.
The Preface: of Lincoln. Mr. Button of London.
Godtoafixcdplacc.fwg-.up.
Whereas $./>*»/ reckoneth up a long Catalogue of graces, to be l>/ameteflc, vigilant, fo~ ber, ntodeflt Ittrnctt, hoftitall, and I know not what: the man is content the Puritans take all thefe for themfelves,
Me might alfomarkefome fpeciall differences which our Canons themfelvcs doc make betweene CatbatrAts and Pn- rockiall Churches ; and parti cularly in an obfervation con cerning the point in hand./>^. 182,183.
I hope it will be no offence, if I ptacfce out this Cumane crcature,(who like a fawning Sycophant, thinkcs to take fanftuary in that holy ground) from the fhadow and fitlttr of tiftRojall Chapp ell. ^.35.
Every Parifh Church is not bound to imitate jq all out-
The good Minifters of the Land ( i. f. the Turban Mini- (lers^arethe Kings inoft loy- all, loving, dutiful!, faithful!, obedient, and peaceable fab-
But let us examine a little what force there is in this Ar gument: Cathedrals are fo and (o : therefore all other Chur ches muft conformc to them. I deny the Argument. I.tgbm •v'wendnm tftt non extmplt*. p. 160.
In the laft place being pul led away from the homes of their Cathcdrall Altars^ not able iofieltcr themfelvcs from their purfucrs •• they flye as to their lad refuge, and moll im pregnable fort, to the Kings Cktippftt.pag.i6j.
Why ftiould fub/cfts think to compare with the King, in B
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tf Lincoln, Mf . Burton ofLot
ward circumftances, the pat- the fate of his Roydl family ttrre and furme,*nd outward or Ch^ppetl; there being many cmbcllifhmcnt and adorning things in the Kings Chappell, of the Rojrtfl Ctmppgfl.p.ty which were prdumption to
have in ordinary Churches,
It is not therefore his Ma je tties Chappcll, but his Lawes, Canons .Rubric^*, and Procla mations, which we arc to fol low in thefe outward Cere monies./*^.
This Table, without fomc new Canon, is not to {land is^/tar.-H'ife, and you at the North-end thereof; but 7"<i- ble+rife) and you muft otrici- atc at the N.>rth-fi<Jc ct the func, by the Liturgle.p. : o.
Doflorcs Ifgevdi fnnt cum i"nt.i. Tli«, Doflors uuiftbec pardoned if they fotnctiincs flip in their ex
The worfhip and fervice of God and of Chi ift.ii not to bee regulated by humane ex amples, but by thedivine rule of the Scriptures./'. 165.
The external! rites and Ce remonies in the Church, are limited by Aft of ParliameKt prefixed to the Communion boo!,e,and no more to be ad ded or ufed in Churches, pig. ip<5.
Their works arc not with- o'.it their r.evi or fpots, ib as they that re.ide them muft m,trgarit.it e CCCHO Icgcrc, ga- thcr pcarles cut of the mud.
I flr.'uld therefore rcafon- ably prclume, that this good
Workc in hand is but a fecund part of SAntla. CUr*, nnd a
The I'or ke ofFwcifcw S. C7.<>vt,wlikhh.ith beene now thrice printed, and thit in London as they (ay, and is
frothy fpcculation of fomc much applauded by our Inno-
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tjltinifltr of Lincoln, Mf . Burl in of London,
/ nd fo the Bifliop of N«r. »ich muft bee ever fending forth letters of perfecution : becaufc hhn Fox obferveth, that one of them did fo./>.pS.
So hot is the perfection a- painft Gods faithfull Mini- fters &: people in thnfc Coun ties of AV/o/^ancl.^/o/^, &c.^,/jr.i j. that in all Qj_iocrc Maws time thcie was net fo great havocke made of the faithfull Miniftcrs of Gcd,&c.
S. Cyprian aggravates the offence ofthefcTeftators,that by making Church-men ex ecutors and over-feers of their laft wills, Ab altttri ftcerds- test & miniftrot volunt AVOCA- re, will needes withdraw mi ni fters from their Ecclejiajli- call /#»#i'0«,with no lefle of fence, than if under the Law they had with-drawne the Priefts from the holy Altar.
When Clergy men dare in affront to Gods Woid, to Chrifts doctrine and exam- plc.&c. ufurpe and take upon them to meddle in the mana ging even of the hightft and wcightieft affaires of Princes, States, and temporall king- domes, which is incompati ble with the AUniftcriall /««- Epiftle to the Nobility.
If the Ordinaries now com mand where there is no law or former Ctntn in force, it layeth a grievance on the fub- jeft,as a thing »»;«/?, and con- fequcntly of a nature where- unco obedience is no way
And herein wee have caufc to b'cflc the name of Gud, who hath railed up many zca- •loas and couragious Champi ons of his truth, I mean faith- fu'l Minifters of his word, who choofe rather to lofe all .they have, thanlubmitthcm- felves to their «*»;»/? an commands./'^. 83. B 2
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O tiwjlcr of Lincoln. Nerves from Ipfwich.
This fellow jumbles againc Little Pope Regultts play.
the King and the Bifliop, M«- eth fuch Rex in Norrvtch Dio-
!jnjm Regent cum Kegnto, like cede. And in the margine. Ic
a ii'ren mounted upon the tea- fipnificth both a linlc King* a
t hers of an Eagle./*.? i. ,
Sofarrc the Parallel holds betwecne them in their words and writings. And I pray God there bee not a more unfccne Parallel at lead in their ends and aimcs, between this Lincoln- fhire AttnifterfxA Prinne, and Sajlmeket as \vcll as betwecne him and Burton.
What thinkc you now ofthisconfcnt and harmony bc-
twccne the Altniftcr o^Lincoln Diocejf'c, and H. £. of London ?
'i hinke you not that they hold intelligence with one another,
and by their weekly packets give and receive advcrtifemcnts,
both what they tncanc to write of, and how to follow it ?
Ccrtair.ely this mull needs bee done by mutuall correfpon-
dcnccand combinarion ; at lead nsn fine Kumine div /'•«», not
without ipeciall influence of the fame illfpirit. Yetl mull tell
you by rhe way, that of the two the AUnijler of Lincoln is the
molt advcntrous: whobefidesall thatliercisiaid, hath a long
ft tidied c)i<b):n-(c iiunair.tcnanccot fitting at the holy Sacra-
incur, v.liichgivjd Mi>{ler Burton never winched ar. Bur now
upon the (fating of thcqucftionby this man of Itncolnfinre,
f^mcofthc lurcrli'jclls ( of which wee have had many fince
the Mlniflers Iv.vikc ) have brought in that too ; and made ic
one of the difpati ties or ^//vm/^/r/jbetweeneour Saviour and
the PrcUrcs. And yet the brethren may doe well.not to give
too ir.uch credence to him. For howfoever hec hath drained
fo much ro g.ii;v: their favour;and let them out with a long Ca-
{.ilow; of fr<icc.<, as vfoi/anttfo&ert bla9teleffct mode ft, lear
ned. t)ofyits.lly and / kyotv not vrhttt.p. i ^ i . Yet at an Jthcr time,
lice flings them rff,asifthcy had no reference to him. Tor if
they will cxprc(Tc no reverence c.t their approach unto the holy
T".l-ht as you know they will not ; taty ^rwDunatus/cr £*«/,
they
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they fliall be *W*r vritte* in bis Ctlendtrftr tbekit&t* »ftk& C&*rr&,pag.$i9,ioc. Or if they dcediflike the callings of the Reverend Ordinaries of this land , as you know they doc : *' He wiftieth them preftntly \vitli M-Ceitca'm the »/n>,asun. "worthy ofthat moll happy government, which (bythera- " vonr ot God and the King;all the I.aity and Clcrgie do herd "enjoy in the */^£*£/W, pag. 64. 65. And thus hecdeales with £d/vi» alfo, whom he endcavoureth to favelurmkilc all he can, frcm having any band in changing the Ea^lfe Li- turgte : yet faith, he was a Pefyfragmon, pig. 1 44 a man /"••*.-;- ntAticaliy z.calotttt pag.i<}5. And rbushsrc feeds them, as you fee,with a bit and a knock, *ltc ra mnnu pifccm oflendcns, dura Itfidcm: and will be lure to keep them under, how much fo ever he advance them.
But Ole (jtiidAcl te ? What makes all this to me.may this All- mfttr lay, who am nor named nor glanced a: it) his bcly Tttble ; oratleailnamcdnootherwifc, than aiaongft diofe Authors, which were feledcd purpofcly toadcrr.ehis Margin? It is true, the Afinlftert as if he knew not whom to pitch on for the Coal front the Altar^ laycs about him blindefold : and like the (°) ntuvktj boy\\t fpcaks of, he flings his ftoncs abroad where he fees rnoft company ; not caring whom hee hit, fo he hit at fomebody. Yet generally the needle of his compafle points unto the North, and he drives much ac one or other, that was not of the f0</wrf|V, but an inhabitant cj 'A remote and. another province ,p. ^ . whoufed to travaUt Grf.nth.im RoActe^.ji. and was * friend anto the Vicar, p. 1 10. John Coaly as he is called by name, png. 88. Nriv.ctjtlc Cody as from the place and parts of his habitaticn,pag. 1 1 4. A man vphcfe learning lay in unlear ned Liturgies, pag. 85. and ufed to cr*ck^ of fomewhac unto his JY*Wf«,pag. 1 1 1 . but to btpittyed for all that, in being marri- tdto ^ Tviddow^ pag. 1 63. Who the man aimes at in thclc cafts, is not here considerable. It is poflible he aimes at no body, but unto his Acti. at have amongst you. However, all this while, th.it I may dwcjt ce/t'd keep my fclfc unto my Accidence,as I advifed.fpj Petrtts dor. K0t fae fa-got- w/V^r^andmayfleepefafelyif he will; for none of all thefeby-blowesdoe reflccl; on him. Done with much cin-
B 3 ning
ThVrtfaci.
aiig T tfliire you, but with ill foccefle. "For now he leaft of all expects it, I muft draw the Curtaine, and let him fee his Ad- irgil, vcrfary, though he hide himlelfe. (1) Me^»f,adfHnt^Mifccly in the Pocrs words. I amthctmnthac ncvcryetiaw Grnntham Sttrple ; though fo; the Churches Jake I undertook rhc Patro nage of the poorcdeadriw. The letter tothe fj'r«r being nvich 'btr'Ji: afcer,and by iome ifaflious \\i\\fafyretdtbroAd) of fH^foje to binder that good tvor^f of uniformity which u now in buil, did rirltoccaiionmec to write that anlwer to ir, which pallcth by the name of A Co*' from the sl/tttr.Nw a nccc/Hry is lai^upon me to defend my fdr.and with my fclf thatanfwcr alto, from theinoit inlolcnt, though wcakc artaults or this in- ccitainc certatneCi>V/»(/?rr ofthe Diooeffe of Lincoln ; who co.nts into ihc fiold with no other weapons, rhan tnfol«ncetijr* ttor.inet anAfa/fcboed, in my dcTeiKe where* <fja -.d all my refe rence* thereunto, I am to give yon notice lietc, that whereas there were two Edititns of ir, one prefenrly upon the other • I relate onely in this Antidote to the fit ft Edition; bccaufe the Afimftfr takes no not ice buc of that alone.
The method which I tife in this Anitdttum , fhall be flic wn you nexr, that you may know the better what you arc to lock for. The whole dilcourie I have divided into three Sections. Into the firlt wherof I have reduced the point in controvcrfic, as it relates tous or'thc Church or f«^//«W.- following the/M- nfterzi. the heeles in his three firlt Chapters, touching the Ji*te of the quel\ion,the /v^<t//2nd Epifcoptll power in matter of Ceremony und in the rounh bringing nnto the tcftvall that he ha:h related in Icverall pl.-ces of his book, touching the ta king downc of Altars, and alteration of the Liturgie in Xing Edwards time. The fecond Seclion comprehends the tendrics of the Primitivg Church, concerning Sacrifices y Priefti, and Alters ; together with their gencrall ufagc in pldcing ofthe Alturm holy 7^7^/^and thatcontaines fourc Chapters alfo.In which we haven.)t oncly aflured our caufe.both by the fudge- incnt and the uiage or'thc purclt Ages •. but anfwcred all thofc Argumcnrs(or Cavils lather) which by the Miniftcr have l?ccn^ fludicd to oppoie the fame, The third and lait cxliibites to
you
vTrejai
you thofe Extrtvqncin. and r*pr*u which every where appeare in the Mimjttn booke j and arc not any way reducible to the point in hand: wherein wee havegood (tore ofconfi. dent ignorance, falsifications farrc more qroflc, becaufc more unncceflary , and not a Little of the old Li»co/^^^f.
n"1i" |Al7 >n t'lls,Wl!c * havc difpofed it for your cafe who hallplearetorradcic: that as you arc Reeled with it, you nay end the bookc cither at the firft or feconcl Scclic n • or clfe £r*fr tndreade it tloorcnlj, as y< Ur ftumatk for vcs you', /n all and every pare of the whole difcourle, as I have laid downc "£J'"S without good **thorit}t ibhave I faithfully reported it » ***** wnicn 2 re tnciclmcl tiown iss one tli^t cunno it
but have learned by this very Mtm/ltr, that all faKc define ;'.i f '*[. " . '^owcvcr'rtrjay ferrcfor a prcfcnr fluff' ycr iiuhe cno it bnngi both (liamc to them that ufc it,and dif advantage f™™**'.f»****'t*'ir*tll&itfrtvM/rtAit the laft thcJi«!i
that* h pprcfrcd by mens fubrilc pwfliccs. Nor would I /* iiiv^uiu idrc tnc vvoriCj or iinclc tnc It lie cflcrmc arnongftyou; becaufe the contrary opinion hath been under taken, by one that calls himfelf a Minifier of Lincoln Diocf(Te. You are now made the Judges in the prefent controverfic and
lohf Si* " ^onc5r"C8 y°? ia an WSh de8ree, to dealc upright ly m he coufe,without the leaft rcfpefl of perfcns: & hav in2
Sffi?1 Pames fp,ea> to 'Wri8h their Argmnenrvndthn gi *eftntenceas you finde it. Or in the languascof Min*ti*.
that you may ib doe and then ou in £S
PErltg librum buncjui titulix e/?[Antidotum Lincolnienfe, &c.] *» ^«o nibilreferie fane doftrinx, aut bonis mriius contrarium.; quo mlnut cum Militate public A imprimatur.
Ex ^Edibus Londin. Maii die 7. 1637.
Sa: Baker.
The Contents of each feverall Sedti- on and Chapter contained in
this Tr<Mti
SECTION I.
CHAP. I.
Of the flateof the queflion.and the occafion of writing tne letter to the Vicar of Gr
Accufcri head. The Miniftcr of\ \ ,r >lniK ; /
nofCr rp, ,;' M
CH A p. IT.
r , p. .
OfthcRcgali power in matters l-cclcfiafticall and whether it was ever cxcrcifed in fcclina the Communion table in forme of an AbrD
words,
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•words, And the Lo: Chance/lour Egcrtons. The Puritans wort beholding to bivt than tht King. The Minifter cf Line: tnifrepor- teth the D otters words, o»fly to plckjt (juarrett with his Majtfties Ch.tfpiU. AfeconA. o*t-fet on the Ch.ippell,grounded upon another f.:lfification ef 'the Dofhrt word j.Of mother Chappcls.Tta R oy~ all Chappcll how it may befAtd to interpret Kubricks. The Mini- fler of Line: quarrels tvtth Qneen E'izabcchs Chappell; and for thatpHrpcfef*!f>fieth both hisforrainc Author s, and dotneftickjfl i- dences. Not ktfptngybtit adoring images, tnquired into in the ft ft jetrc of jQyeenc Eliz lb:th That by the Queens InjHrtEltonsjOr- dfrs And. Advtrtifcmcr.ts^the Table w.w to ft And TV here the Altar did. The idle anfyver of the Minifter of Lii\C:to the Doftors trgtt- mtnt. Altars c^Pigeon-houfcs nliAlikfJviththelAW. Minirter. The Miniftcr of LiiK'.falfe and faulty argumentdrAwnfiom the perufersofthcLiairgie, the troubles at Franckforc, and Miles Huggards/f/?/wi?»7. Offt*ndin%ttttbe North fide of theTable. Tht Minifler of Line: froduceth the Pontificall *g*tnft himfclfe, His idle c.ivilf with tht Dothr tatuhing the L^tine tranjUt'un of the Comtnon-^njerBoo^The P(trli.iment determined nothing cancer mn ff talking down of Altars. The meaning and intention of th.tt Rrt/'rick; Tht Minillcrof Line: peters vtith hii Majefties Dccl.tr atiort about J.Gregories. ^ copy ofthe'Dccliiratitn.The fumme <tndful>ftAnce of the Declaration, Regull dcdfionj in parti- cnUr c<if(S t ofrvhat pomr an
CHAP. III.
ortheEpifcopal authority in points of Ceremonic; the piety of the iKYic:s,cmd good work in hand; and of the evidence produced from the AftsScMomimcnts.
The Miniftcr oflMCiirttandajrmef in tht prefent bufinejt, Dtingerom grounds /aid by the Miniftcr of Line: for over-throw* ing the Epilcopall <wd [\cga\\potvcr. Hemifreportsthe mettning efthe CoHnce!loJ^\<.t,tof#tujic his private fpIeen.The Minifter of Line: overthrows hi* owne former grounds by nevfttperftru- flHrtsyrotefttth in .? thing ngait-ft his confcience. Chargfth tht JDottor -with fitch things <u he findes not in him. Denyeth th*it *nj ene thinf may havt tw kyovonc and proper namej j therefore th*f * ' tkt
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!tbe CemmuHifK tdlc m*j not bt called AM Altar *lft\Anctfor tb* preoft thereof doth fa/Jifie his orvnt AHthoritiet. Tht Doftor falft~ pfdAgaine. about the Canons of the jeare 1571. The Miniftcr beholding to fame Arch-d:acons/*r h:s obfervations. Their cttr- tAlUng of the Bifhops power.™ moving or removing the Commu- ni' n table, to advance their oivne.They\siy ofthetime'-,'"^^ good workc/» hand^ declared and defended aggtnft the impicfM And profane denfton cf the Miniftcr of Line. The tfflimontc) of Fryrh, «nd lambert, tx^en out of the Acts and Moimments, cleared from the cavils eftbf Miniller of Line. The Minifter of Line: cuts off the words p/f.amhcrc, Fox, Philpot, «nd Bifiop Larimer, audfc.lfifuthmoft foultlj the A(5ts and Monuincms : Corrects the Statute And the Writ /itortt the S-icratncnC of the Altar: Pleads poorely for the Btflop of l.incobe and Dcane of Wcftminfter,*» the matter 0/Oyfltcr- board-; «r«^Drcfler$: and fills impertinently fonle on the Htfiop of Norwich.
ClIAl>. IV.
Of taking down Altars'm K.£W»v.timc';altcring the Liturgic fir ft made; and of the teftimonics given unto it,bythc King and Parliament.
The Dottorle/tves the MimTter "/ Lincoln? Method, for this ChAptcrJt l^eepflofeto England. Altars not generally taken down in tbt +of K. Ed w.5. The MinifK-r of I \\K-.falf; feth the Bifioft letter to the Vicar;AndpAlteri with a pifage tn the Ads & MOM. to make them ftrve hU turne about the tA^ing dotvne of A Itars. A moftnttoriottt piece of \\on-fanfainthe ncn> Edition of the letter. The Altars in the Chnrchof£ngland, beaten dovtn in Germany. Altars not beaten down dc fafio, L-J (he common people, l>nt taken doivne by order, And in fare procecdtn* Alalt(n cff.iff m.y be Made doElrinallfomtttmcs, and on feme occafions. The Order of the King but a kinde of la\vr. The Miniftcr o' Lir.c: /«;^-f great • fains to free Calvin, from having any handin filtering the Litur- gic. Land-mart^ and bounds laid down, for the right mderjland. ing oftheflorj Calvin exrepts again ft the Lilttr;ie,pr,itl.c<:th with the D.o/Somcrfcr, both when he TT.Z; Proteftor<and after. Hit correfpondence here with B? Hooper, Andiilafiettitttto the •feremeniestheubj Law ejlabhficd, The plot for Altering tht Li-
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/7 Ujed, Dukei tttAtntlir. 7 he fitmtfutt tymnet *nd mo{t
of Lines w *//*£« l*finefr«. Calvin**
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w Letter t« the Arclib. cleared from the cwilj of the Miniftcr of Line: The teftimoait given the firft Liturgie bj K. Edw.tf.*/- fertedfrcm thefal/e conftruttioM of the Miniflcr of Line: M alfo that given to it by the /5.ir/ww<r»r.^rf/;^.Bancrofr>4Wjo: Fox, Ttk*t tkejfy thereof. ThtftAnding of the Table tfttr the tlter*.
thnofthe Liturgie ; Mid that the name of Altar WAJ be ufed in ft i f i f *
n C hftrch reformed.
SECTION II.
CHAP. V.
What was theancient Dodrine of the Church con cerning Sacrifices i Priefs^ and Altars : and what the Doftnne of this Church in tliofc particulars.
That Sacrifices, Pi icfts, and Altars tvercfromthe beginning, [>y the light of nature ; And that not onely AntQitgtt the Patriarchs, but Amongst the Gentiles. That in the Cbriftiatt Church there is A Sacrifice, Priefts, and Altars, andthofe both inflittttedavdex- prtfidin the ho!} GofpelL The ltk« delivered by Dionyfiusjgna- tius-jliidin Martyr,<i«^ in the Canons oftheApiftles. At *lfo by Tcrtnlli.inlIrcnxiiS|Oriptcnl<M^ .V. Cyprian. How the Apologc- ticks ofthofe times are to be interpreted^ in their denjtll of Altars in the ChrtfliAnC.hnrch. Miruuiiis VaiMx.faljtjitd by the Minifler of Line. What were the Sacrifices TV hie hthe /aid A pologeticks did deny to be in the Church c/Chrift. The difference befreeetta
tf -> j j j
off. inc.- in the point of Sacrifice. The doctrine of the Sa crifice delivered by Eufcbiu*. Ths doclrine of the following F*. ( then, o/Sacrifices.PridU. and Alt.irs. What is the Dottrine of *~ thif Church, touching the Pricfthood and the Sacrifice. The •; yndgemtnt in thefe points .and in that of Altars, ofKt AndrCWCS, A', lames. //.Montagnc^W />, Morton,
Chap.
The Contents.
C H A P. V I,
An Anfwer to the Cavils of the Minifterof Line, a- gainft the points delivered in the former Chapter.
elivered in thi 3 1 . Article t*gA\* ft the being of a Sa crifice in the Church of C hnfl\ nor in the Homilies. yf piow BH!( obtruded on the Defter by the Miniftcr e/l.inc. The Reading- Pew/^ Pulpit , tndthepoor-mc.ns.fiox mttdt Altar t by the Mi- niftcr 0/Linc.^» huddle cftmpentnexc tes brought in concerning facrifice Commemorative tCommetnot\nion oj afacrificc jind ma- teriull Altars .The Sacrifice of the A Irar kyw* bj th,it n.ime unto the F jtkerr. Arnobius/<t//;/?^.7*/;r Miniftcr ofLittC.qneftioas S. Pauls dtfcrettonjn ^wHabemus Aitare.Hr^. i ;. i Q.anelfa/fijiflh J.-Ainbrofe, Tkt meaning of that Ttxt accenting *nto £. An- drcwcs, ^.Montague, the Rifiop andthe Mwfttr cfLinc. The fftme ex founded by the tld Writers ,both Creek And I .atinc. The Alt Ar sin the Apoftlcs Canont nttde Pantcrics,*wrf l.arders; And Judas hit b*g AH Alt*r [>y thit mtn o/Liti. The D after And Ig'ia- tius vindicated in the th>ee fluces touching Akars. TheprophAHC Pafljt%e in the Minifters Bool^ofa W ido w- Altar. An an/ver to the £avi(s of the Miniftcr o/Linc. agAtnft tie evidence produced from Irenarus And ^.Cyprian. The Minifters*^«or^«^ mi(i*k<s about the meaning tf Tcrtullian in the word Ara. Pamelius nci* rtAdtn^ *itvnt Charis Dei, not HniverfcKj received. A britfe n- citttllof the /Hl'fttncc in theft two l<tft Ch<tpten\
CHAP. VII.
Of Churches,and thcfafhion ofthem,nnd of the ufu-1 all place allotted in the Church for the holy Altar.
P facet appointed for Divine worfiip ttmtnpft r/^Ptitr.iarche», Jevves, <«»«GentilCJ. The various condition} And eftatetf the Chriftit Chursh^& that the Churchet were tccordwi unm thafe eftatcs WhutWM the meaaing of the ApologCticks token the j dtnitd the h*wi£ of Temples w tht Church of Cht i/tt The M i-
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ThFContcnts.
flcr »/ Line, ft oft tht nroutb of Mirutiui Felix, *kd falftjietb Arnobim. Alrars bow jitttated in the trouble (bme and ptrfecHteA times 0/ChriftianUv. The u'Kall forme efCh»rche$^ and dtjlintt tar ft and places of them in the primitive times. That tn thofe rimtt the Alcars flood not in the body of the Church, M ufuppofed b) the Minifter 0/Lnc. Six Reafontfor the founding of the . -Itars At the Upper end of the Q\.\n^orC\\^n^\\inthedayesof old. O; Eccle- fulticail tr^dtttonSj and the Authority thereof. The Church of England cor.ft.:nt to the prailife of the former times. The Mini- Ocrc/I.inc. tels a IVinter tdt about the {landing of an Altar in the Clatlicclra! Cluu cli ofVuvcr.Tbe metiningoftb* Kubrick in the (.'timwoii prtjrr-l>ooli-e>til>ant the placing of the Table in Com munion time ; M at jo oftheli. Canon of the Church f/
CHAP. VIII.
An Anfwcrto the UJf/»//?^of Lincoln* Arguments againft the (landing of tlic Lords Table at the up per end of the Qmrc.
The Minifter */ Lincoln/or/^' bis Bifhop,«£0fltt tht , 0 0/fJ^ Altar in the body »/ r^ Church. The Altar w Eufebius Panegyric^ , »<" I'M /£<? middle of the C hurch.The Minifters c on- fidence and ignorance, in placing the Altar 0/inCCnfe */*/*»»'« the vaile. Toftatus falftfiedty tht Minifter */ Lincoln. KJx>« 3u- erji^w »» ^'' //' Co ««<:<?# 0/Conftantinoplc, W the meaning of it. The Minifter of Lincoln at A /ofle in h:s Cnticall learning, bsti) Greek and Latin. Varro co-rupted by the Minifter */Litt- coln. ^'«^ Augiiftinc wh.it hee meant by Menfa ilia in medio conftitura. Albalpinas/^/^. Durandus fets the Mrzrat t(e upper er.dofthe entire, The tejlimony of Socrates /WNicepho- rus aff: rtcd to the 'Doftorfrom the Minifters cavils. Tht Altars bow now placed tn the Greek Churches. The weakf authorities produced by the Minifter oflincdn, for placing of tht Table di- ftantfrom the tva/l^ndfome of them corrupt eda/fo. The generali Precedents of the ^mhu, for placing of the bolyTablcJorged:
The Contents.
<» d/o Are thf Afts eftht Connce!l o/Millaine nndtr Borromeo. The Minifter cgnfe fifth gtiiltjt and confute! htmfelfe,offalifctt. tion. Alany p.irttctt/iTr Precedents brought in : mtft of them counterfeit t\nd forged, \ and nil together cond»dt nothing to the point in band. The Minillcr o/Li.icch *ga inft himfelft.
SECTION. III.
CHAP. IX.
A bricfc Purvey and ccnfurc of the fir ft fcrvicc of Ex- travagaritics in the holy Table.
The Minifters Extravagancies, one cfthe gmteft psrt of bis *hole difconrft. Hu ignorant mtftaking in /^Mathtina»icks concerning the inventions o/Huclidc, AtchimcdcS,«*^Pythago- ras. The Mjnifter/rf«//<r/ in the original! o/Epi'icopall authori, tj. Hit bringing tn ofmnftz ClaTa,rtw^San^)a Petra./or the jin. gle onely. Tne Aftntftcr mtftt>\(£s the c*fe of the German Priefts. His cavils <r the ,'orme ot I'raycr before the Sermon\And turning tovpurdt the E<»lt in the All of Prayer. The Minifters iar.crant endcuoHn to aivjnct thr authority of 'he Archdeacons. 7"ta A-/i- . r.ifter miflak^r, it, the Djaconicon. what th? Piacoii) ••«•<« ; find lh*t it *ddet but little to the dignity of A?ch^cicons, that the old Deacon h.td the keeping of it. The Aficijltr at>jtod/y fas tht Deacon above the PriclK Portare Altarc, not , >i» honour in the firftDc9Can^6tit*Jfrvicc0Ke/j. Thelittlt hevour done f-y tht Jlltniftcr to:he Archdeacons, in drawing down? thfir pf-i-fgret from thtfiift Deacons. T he Afimfters ier.or<int »,ij},i^e tt, /.-/< or< n .. JrWutcnfil. The Mnnfterftibjtlh the Pi icft to the anthtriij rf v. , tht Church wo .rdcn, and for that pmpnfe f*t/fi fi-th I i:id\vood. His ignorant derivations of the prcjtnt C!" tirchwaulcn irotn the old Occonomus. The iJMtnifter emlevMrt to (xctitdttht Clcrgic/rcw medlingin fccnlar matt crttand to that tndat>nfeth
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the authority of the ancient Fathers. His igno'ranc tin the Cat e- cbifinc, and confident miftakes inthat. Hit hearth fre pic* for bowing at the Name of} i s v s.
CHAP. X.
The fecond fcrvicc ofExtravagMefofcnt up and fct before his gr.cfts by the Minifter of Lincoln.
The Mctaphoricall Altars in /^Fathers, good evidence for the proof e cf Rcall Altars in the Church. Ignatius corrupted by Vedelius.Afy Lord of Chichcflers ctnfure <?/Vedclius. The Aliniflcr mi fre ports S. Bernard, and makes ten Altars out of fottre. A new origintllofthc Table in the Chrifltan Church from the Table of Shew-brcad ; the Minifters/'W/»»£ in the fame, defer ttd by theft Authors that hee brings inftr it. The Minifter pleads ftrongly for fitting at the holj Sacrament ; and for that ' purpofe falfifieth llMonms,mifrtportt Saint h\\ft\nyandwrcngt Tcriullian. 'The Bcnediflines/f not at the Sacrament on Maun dy Thurillay. Of the Seiur de Pibrac. The Minifter advocates for the fuhnsta*dw/l not bavt them tee the Authours o/fitting at thf holy Sacrament ; and for that caafe deales falfely vtith the Polifli Synous which impute it to them. Three Polifh Synods afcnbe the fitting c.t the Sacrament to the modern Arians. The ignorance of the Minifter rf^w/accifere &:refervare*«Tertul- lian. What the Stations were. Lame Giles. The MinlRct /lights the appellation ofthefecotidSetvicc, at Jtdthe Writer efthe let ter; and brings in fever all arguments again ft that divifion. The JWiniJlers ignorance in the intention of the Kubricks. Of felting up A Confittory in the midft offer-vice. The authority eft lie PrieU in repulfing ttn-.vort^y perfonsfrom the Sacrament ; defended a- cMnft the Miniftcrs *b fur d exceptions, Hefets a quarelibnncenc Cathedral! And Parochial! Churches >tandmifl*kes the difference bit-necnc them The In }\.\K&\w.*f<ilJified.Of being afiamcdat the n^ms of the Lords Table. The Minifter *fiat»ed at the name of Altar. O/pIcafing the people; and the Minifters extreme p nrfnit thereof. The Minifter ff/fefy chirgethon tf)c?>ottor<tfooli(h •" — " Diptychs.'*"
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^ DOTVM
LINCOLN I ENSE
CHAP. I.
Of the ftate of the queftion.and the occafion of wrmng the letter to the Vicar of Gr.
Accuf<:r.W.
Alderman
notun^tynpp!ication .ri,/w
ln lacc s that *
or ««,„(,,«
urt ocemiaht alfn appolnt=d fpokcrof the P«Sfor the
ho ufc
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c^A houfc ofCommon*,that with great eloquence he haj ' dcfired to be cxcufcd from undertaking that imploy- mcnt, for want of eloquence. The fame may bcaffir. med sstruely, Tarn lure more pertinently, oi this Xon.ncwo, Mr. Somebody •, (K) (owe MinijhrofLin- colncDicctfc: Charing the DoSor whomhecun* dcrtakcih, with libelling, bee hath (hewed himfelft thc'ncateft libeller jaccuiing him of railing, he hath (hewed himfelfethe vericft railcrj and taxing! him for • fa-lfifyinc his Texts and Authors,hath(|iewcdLimfeIf the moft notorious falfificr that ever yet put pen to paper. And fiift,he chargeth him with libeUwg.upon
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lour S. i^//yw, that a ///W/ «».«• dtriifid from two words, d//r, andrffc//-, of which, the Dodtor made 1^ /^ rf»</ ftnt it fir A tektu M his private pte*4 j the bell bcins put toby that /r/w^/, w tmm**£*gi*H f/je Prefff, **<tn»gi*gi* *bo*dwcr all the Cvtatrey, p*r. i. Nor is it placed there oncly in the front to diipoit the Reader, but it is called a/iW,f.ax.tnd /> 60 TA-r whefe looke nothing but A libcll *g*inf A Bt- %»,*.< 8. ;;nd that you may perceive he is no change-
inl'H]., owl a //Mitis called r,gair,e towards the latter end, p 120. He re is a /;/*// with a wire He,, a libttt pubh- llicdby authority, a licenced libell, fjriniid vitk It* m:cc, as himfeHe confcffcth, />. 4- Tor whofoever made the he, you make his Majefty,incffeft,tobcthc aiuhour of the //Wjbccaufc you cannot but conceive, that no man cliu ft have printed his Declaration in the cafe of S. Gregories Church,without his Majcfties cx- prc flfc confent, and gracious approbation. Or if you would be thought fo dull.as not to apprehend a thing
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fo clecrc, yet mud the publifliing of this libcll reft in conclufio on my Lord high Trrt*/*w-,at\vhofc houfc the book was licenced. J Vhich it fohigh(& ).< language (A; p.^~ againjl authority, againft thefraitife of this Realm for licencing of books, and finally againft the honour of the Star-Chamber,onwhofc decree that prattifc and authority is founded 5 <ts ivas never uttered and printed rvith,cr without licence, by any fubjcft tf/England before this time. But this conccrnes not mce fo much, as the higher Powers. I onely touch upon it, and fo leave it: and with it turncthe /iwlfbaclc on thisunccrtainc ccr- tainc Minifter, \\\\Q daring not to (hew himfclfe in the Kings high way, was fame to feckc out blind paths, and crooked lanes, in them to fcatter up and downe thofc guilty papers, which are indeed a //'£f//both for narnr and nature. Tor if a Itbe II bee derived from a lie and a bcll^ it ferves this turne exceeding fitly. Tirft Mr. Some-body, this fomeMiniftcr,m^s the //>, telling us of art Anfiver \vrtt long agoe by a, Mini 'ft er of Lincoln* fiire^ againft abookcthatcame into the world but ten moncths beforehand then he fends it to the Lord Bpof Lincolnc, Dcaneof VVcftmiflftcr^ who forthwith purs a £f AT unto it, an unlicenccd licence, and riigs it over all the countrcy . («) And it did give An O men cfwh.it n.i- (0 ra lure the whole booke wcu Id prove ,by that which folio w- cth in the Title j Printed for the Dtocffi of Lincolne. Whereas indeed it was not printed either for that Di- ocefe, or for any other, but calculated like a common Almanack Jtm the particularMeridian of fome one dif- contented humour ; with an intent that it fliould gene rally fcrvcforall the Puritans of Credit VrittAtn. Or if youarc not willing it mould be a libcll, to gratifie you for this oncc,lctitbc * L9»-bcR 5 A thing that makes a
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Se&, i . mighty noifeto aftonim and amaze poore birds, thac comming after with your light, you may take then) up, and fend them fora token to Pert Cttton, or carry them along with you, when you goc your fclfe, with the next fhipping for New. England^ But being a low- Icll and a libell too,take them both together., Ft ft nt* frojlnt fingula, iufjtfa iuvait.
Your lecond generall charge is Ruling , Oyjlcr- whcre language as you call it, p . 98. And being fame Minifcr, Com* great man,fuch a one ns ThcitclM in the \^dtis> who boaftcd of bimfclfc th.it he was feme body ; you thinkc ir a preferment to the Dorter, to were your livery ; which you bcftow upon him with a badge, (that you may know him for your owne)and call him f cur ri lottt r tiler, f.i^o. RAJ ling V hi lift in. p. i p i , and Railing Donor, p. «/f .Where doc you finde him pec cant in that pecvjfh kinde, that you mould Iny fuch load r.pon him ^ What one uncivill, much lefle fcur- rilous paiTage, can you dcfervedly charge him with, in his whole anfwerc to that letter, which you have tookc upon you to defend, maugre all the world? The worft word there, if you findcany one ill word in it, was I trow good enough for your friend 7. C. a SV- furAtift from this Church, at that time 5 perhaps a Sc- baptift by this time : who by the Anfoercr is fuppofcd to be the writer of that letter ; and might have beene fuppofcd fo ftill, for ought you know, had not you. told us:o the contrary, and got your Ordinaries hand to the Certificate. But bee hec what he will, pray Sir who arc you,that you mould quarrell any man for rat" //'#£, beilig your felfc fo ready a matter in thatart,that howfoevcryour fingers might perhaps be burnt.your //// aflu redly were never ts»://cJ#itb4 Coalcfrom
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the Altar, gtrittfacriv/ili. I will not fccke to break Capl I.
you of fo old a rrickjwhich I am very well contented
you ftiould enjoy without any partner, Onely I will
nuke bold to dcalc with you, as Alexander did with
his horfc.50«pA.f/«f,(f) take you a little bythcbri- tf) ?9ft**f»>
die, and turnc you towards the Sunne, that other men w ?"*' '. CT
r i i i 11 r i r J B'<V st* ;:?
may Ice how you lay about you, though your (elf doe fan. n.::. not. Hardly oncleafe from the beginning to the enda wherein you have not feme one Title of honour to be- ftow upon him ; which without going to the Jfcralds, I (hall thus marfliall as I findc them. Poore fellow ,p.i . and 6 \ . /tnimalpttgnac ifimnm^ Gander , Commj* Bar retter, p. ^ , Wr angler J. 4 . Haughty companion, ^.5. Doughty Dottor,p.2i. This Animal ,p.i^, Scribler^p. 26. Cumane creature, and/tfnw/'/rg Sycophant, />. 55. Animal rationale ri fib tie, a moft ridiculous creature for his reasoning, p. 42. Pamphlettcr, p.<> 8 . and poor e pant. fhlctter, 8 5 . Firebrand, p . 6 2 . J/*/? in]udic't8w andtri- It4tlicion-s Rabbi tp. j6. si Divine
and
Sqne.i-
gentleman, p.iio. Foore Defter, p. 132. and 158. thing that cannot bluft, /> 1 4 1 . L^tujhrem^ and <r«- tM (ompattion, p. 150. T/;;* wanofrags^ p. 154. Xot>W'(Mld-bc,p, 159. Impudent companion, p. 188. Slinking Dottcr, p. i *p o. i'4/i Sycophant, p. i p r . W/;//. ler,p.io^. Kraggard, p. 227. and to conclude with Railing Dotfor,p.ult. HA manw Trejam erigent ? Is this the meanes to faveyour(g) Tw_y from mine, of f which you tell us,£. 60 f No other way to fhew your dcxtia d-:fenJi *w/f unto the caufc , but by forgetting all good man- ^°^stcft)*'c' ners f Such ftuffc as this, till you, ar.3 your con fcde. ratcMr.//. Burtfti came in print together, hath not
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Seel. i. beenefcttoopen fale, fince (UJ WdgrAves preite, in (hi WaJijrrves Lofidd}ij,r>& that of T.C.which you wot of in the City of 'Coventry , (') have beenc out of work. Burton and you, the oncly two that have revived that kinde of languagCjWhich finceoldJi/4r//» Mtrre- Prelates daics hath not fecn theSun j but being now brought againe i-p'rt.nr tcon- into the \vorlds and on a thoroiv fernfatl^ confirmed and
licenced, you may proceed for yoiu part,
(i)Kol, table. . . 5/. /rt r-i-
>^-j. •%?•"*» ronc dares touch you for it. I ortunate man,
(kjistLetictitce whofe very railings are allowed oft as being (k) jm/i onl-odoxe in dcclrixe^ and c on fan ant in difcifiline t$ the Church of England, and therefore very fit to i>e printed, there is no qucftion of it. Koiis non licet ejfe ttm di~ fertis : Torus poorc fcllowcs as -we a re, it is not our ambition to looke upon that height of eloquence, which you fo profperoufly have attained to. Or could we reach it,(bcing,Ithink,a matter fcafil>lc)we fliould be fine to have a check for it, not an Approbation. But (1) ;»P/.W/M. j wijj ea£ you Ofthat fcare< Non (i) tratlafa ut Confu-
lern, KC iKequidcm rut ut confuUrem j however it was Tuflies plea, (hall bee none of mine. I muft remem ber who I am, not what you merit : and therefore in my anfwcrs to your Heights and cavills , I will re- ply ad rent , and not Ad heminem. You have fomc Coals upon your hud dizzAy : Inufingyou thus gent- Cm) R6, 11.10, jy^ j(m)flwll heapconmorc ; which is an honefter revenge than you ever ftudicd, and better than you have deferved.
The firft two faults you charge him with,were on ly crh»iit*B, in which the Star-C/JAotfar, or the Guild }UH might afford you remedy : but that which fol- lowes in thelaft,is C*pit*ll 5 clipping the Kings ownc coine, and jfuch as is made currant within this King- dome :
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domctagcncrallfalfifyingof hisMijefticsDccIara- Cap, I. tions, Lawes, In junctions ; of all bookcs, cither prin ted here, or imported hither. The whole bookc,^/ /'/ it a libf'l AgAinfl A Bfjlffp, ft every Icafe thereof is A ma- HciowfAlfpcAtiofioffime Jut for Brother. />.5S.^.«- rifvmilttmiAdiftbrt'Uittt? Could any man have fpoke more home, and ufed fewer words *. In cafe this be not , ww w i\*#'sv> nothing ever \v;is. What t not one Icafe without fomc falsification, and a malicious one tobootc,of fome Author or other '. AflTuredly, if fo, you may juftly call him falfe-fttgred gentleman, bold mAnya niller at quotations ,& what clfc you plcafc. There is not a friend he hath, but will thankeyou for it. But if your challenges be but fuch as thofc you mention^. 23. in calling Plo^den Judge, beino; but a Counfellourat Law, (no fuch malicious falsification, if you markcitwell) and fettingdowncSir.fl^rf, for Sir Edward Coke,* miftakeonely of the Printer : have you not made your triumph before the victory '. The Author faw thofe errors, and faw them mended too, before youobfcrved them : both of them being cor rected in the fecond cdition^vhich followed dole up on the firftjwithin one fortnight; and which you caa- not but have fccnc, though youdi(fcmbleit,onely to make your brethren merry when you meet together. For in your 90.pag. encountring wich apaffagcof Bi- fliopL4timcrs,yo\.\ cite it from die author, as in p. 1 6. and fo it is indeed in the fecond edition : whereas thofe words of Bifhop Lrtimerszrcp. 15. in the fir ft. (n)Andim*dsii This is no honeft dealing to beginnc with ; yet this is ^!^S that which wee muftlooke for, Par my &ptirtont, as fnmtmlbGt*- you know who fay. And for the (n) facriled^e you '^« w«*»«
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complamcor, had it; been the Authors (us it was not) tipnt,^
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w
?aft reafonto accufehim";
having your felfc offended in the fclf-famckinde, bj taking front him hit nzwc given in Baptifmc. For in your 88./»<*£.youcall him loh* Coal; as if you knew him from his cradle : which, if the Church book may betrufted, and thofc which are yet living that affirms the fame, was not the name given by his Godfathers, and Godmothers j though you may findc it in your (°) Accidence , if you fecke it there. And yet it is no* wonder ncithcr,that itfhouldbc thus: it being in fome places a received cuftome, that children when they come for (^Confirmation^ change the names which they had given them at the font : Sufficient ground for you to dtalc thus with the Author; and by what name foever he was Culled in Baptifme, to have him now entitulcd by your own. You tc-ll us of fomcothcr
^P'R-*- thir.gs, wherein hce doth both(q)/4/wand/4/'/f, as you hunt the letter: but what you fay, you fay with- outbooke. For upon examination it will foonc ap. peart, that he \\i\\\ftitttdvc\ nothing, whatsoever you fay ; nv\ failed in any thing, which you (ay he- /*/>«. And were it tolerable in another, to runne the rvild-
(t)ce* xmejnJ gtofc chafe upon ir) words and letters, which is a fport
infairi- you muchdcluiht in i I have a friend in ftorefliould
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follow this train-fccncwitn you, tor your bell prefer ment, and give youthree for one in thcbargainc too. But for yomfiiiffags and yo\ufiuli*gsjk whatfoevcr other f.tlfi fixations you can charge upon him,wcfliall fee more hereafter when you bring them forth. Mean time you may be pleafei! to know how ill this office doth become you. You know who faid it well enough, (<)T/j9it which teachcft anotherytcache(l thou not thyfclf? Htl'At preAchefl A mA#J\)«HUrtotf(tl,dofttboitJlcal?
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And being that you came fo lately fro my our Acci- Cap. L, dcnct, you cannot but remember the firft example in Verlntaccttfon6iiyelAinuAndi.t which you are moft per- fc<5Hn:ifnot,I!c tcllyouwhat iris, £y alter umi ncu- fAtprtkri, iffntn (c initteri oporttt. This is fo eafic to be Engltficd) that you need no c o»flrtti»g booke ; and tells you,who had need be told it,that ir behoves you to take care that everything be well at home, before you come into the Court ro accufc another.Otherwife you will prove fuch a Cenfor morum, as was Manittiu* PUncuf'm theRomane ftorie, (*) ,%ti mlffbjicert pojfit aJ0/eftt»ti&ta,<]uo<in0»4gi9tfccret fwex : moft guilty in your doting daics of thole very crimes, which you have charged on them of the younger fort. Which faid in gcncrall, wcmeanc to lay before you plainly, without wekor guard, your jugling in the cariagc of this bufinellc,as it relates unto the ftate of the qucHi- on,and other the Contents of your firft Chapter: and after all thofemanifeft and moft notorious falfificati- onsScimpofturcs which you haveput upon the world, in your (u) ktly tM. The holy tdlenwtr was fo made ( an /f//4r3asyou have made it in that book; by offering on the fame fuch fpotted, maimed, and moftillegall facrifices,tO your faire («) L*verna. Cx)i'uUlm.
Firft, for your ftating of thequcflion, youhnvcan ^tnj«l^ excellent advantage, (could you hold it /aft) in ma- ffllji King, as you doe, your own cafe, your o\vn evidence, der'« «•""• and your ownc authorities. The principals in th: bu- nncile, were the Vic.ir of Grant kiw, the JUcrmw thereof>nd my Lord E/fiof of ihe Diocefle5 the one- lyAcccfl'Ary ^hereunto, the Bifliops Sccrc.nry. Of all thefethercis none that cither can, or will confute you in any thing you fay ,fay you wlut you will. The rictr
he
n<^ y°u may ufc h'im a$ y°u pfcafc ; for
mm HI non mordent ,as the faying is : But yet take heed, (and fay africndadvifcdyouto it) what you lay upon him. l:or though lie cannot anfwcr to your flandcrs now, lice may bring you to an fwcr for them another fa) p.ig. ii. ^y j-jlc ^4i(icrmAn being fct forth unto us for («) 4 OOraS7- di jcreet and mode fn»Ant as the letter tells us; (b) ^4 frudent aud difcreet man, as your booke informcsus 5 did never flicw his wifdome and difcrctionmorc3than CO r-^-7- that he was fc) ajfraid to offend the Bifiof. And bring, if he be alive, wprudtnt & difcreet as ever, mud needs be now as much afraid to offend the Bijl)of>,zs before he was j and therefore you may fay your pleafure,jmd call the AldcrtHAn,znd. the Alderman; letter to witncrTc what you plcafcto fay j you arc furc of that. As for the f?///>0j>,from whole mouth you muft have the fto- rie, hec hath good reafon to confirme and juftific his ownc relation ; that it may fet him off the better, and givctheworld a full accompt of his moft moderate proceedings in a point fo agitated. Then for the Se cretary, being >ve findc not in the ftorie, that hcc was ^)png.93To. any morcimploycd, than (aj fitting up with his Lord thacmg^/, fetching the booh of Martyrs out <j/thc lull, and ttorrtwing Bifiop Icivcls wirkes from the Partfl) C/;«;-^,and giving out the letters as his Lord direftcd, he was but «o<«w&t4<'#''» a living inftrumcnt ; and if cx- cminrd, can fty nothing that will doc you hurt. So that in cafe, thcBifhopcan but kccpc your counfell, as no doubt hce will ; and Mr Alderman hath not loft his ancient frudence and discretion , which God for bid, you may (land forth, and tell your tale, and tell it with as high a confidence, as if wee were obliged to take all for Gofpell. This you conceive at Icaft,
and
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and go on accordingly :not thinking that in Tome main Cap. i ] poinrs,thofe ^)ofrhe vf//frM£f and the fame Province ^rSkfAih can dctcft you ; or that there is no way to bring truth ''»»«"« to light, hut byconfcflion of the parties. Now in ^Jjj your ftoricof the bufinefle, you tell us that the Vicars head was full of crotchets. Firft, (f) turning cut of the /fnwithc LedurcTS there,6f/*£ f»r* gr^v* anAfuinfull prcacbers,as you fct them forth. For bcmgfahr/eaby the Parifli (to which the Biifcop was fo gocdajricna) ' you cannot but txtolhhem,whatfocvcr they wercjor what juft caufe focvcr the poorc Vicar had to rid the towne of them. Then for the fccond Crotchet, that was,you fay , the removing of the Communion table fiom the «f per part of the quirejvhcre it rras comely placed be fore 3 (ana bad flood timeout tffiiindc) unto the <^4ltAr- flace^ AS he called it 5 and telling Mr ^IdcrmAn (who out of his tltfcrctitn, muft needs quejlion the Vic AT for it) thrt he had done it, and would jujltfe it. What proof have wee for this, (for of thcothcr you bring none) I meanc,that the Communion table ftood-in the upper part of the Qajrc,in fuch a comely failiion, for ib long continuance; and that it was removed by the vie AT onely, without confulting with the Chancclhtir , or perhaps the Ordinary ? For proofe of this we a re re- ferreatoMr dldermans letter. Then that the Vicar called the Communion table by the name of 7><r//c_>, faying that he would but Id nn Altar ofjlone at his ownt^f charge ; and that the riu'c people made reply, that he fiouldfrt up no drcjfrrs of (lone in their Church : What proofe have we of th. t '. Mr i^ildermant letter. Next, (f) th.?t he ufed ligl't grjJnrcs in lowirg at the nAme of Jt /i'S.y^ *4 fomettrf.c s I, f ttokefe// d> rvne, Aid once him- dcffioaofthofcihat were not {o will iff tiled
to
io ri}At religions Ceremony : What evidence to make that good < Mr. Alderman* letter. Thcfearethcmoft imtcriall things in the whole relation, fofarrcasic concerned the ground of the proceeding ; and for thcproofc of all wee mufttakc your word, as well asMr./i Hermans letter. l;or what if Mr. Alderman writ no fuch letter, or if he writ it on the Pofl.fatt on- ly, to make good your tale j or if you make more of it than he mentioned in it : as who can tell but you may dcalewithMr. Aldermtns letters, as you have done throughout y our booke with the .-ildermtus betters? Or what if Mr. Alderman* letter fay as much as you Would have him, why would you have us credit Mr. slider mans letter, to the difcrcditof the Vicar ; cfpc- cially as things flood between them ? the Alderman being moft apparently not a party ondyjout dux parti- »w,thc leader of a party againft hisMinifter. For you
(g/'FJs-*« your fclfc have tola us, that (p)Mr. Alderman (being nor(g) Bifiof,Cb&ncett9rt r\Qt Surrogate, as I conceive him) commanded {lift owne officers (Sergeants, and Beadles, aRdfuchfcllowcs)/0 remove theTtblc to the fUce where it flood before. Which being done ac-
(h) itteeupm cordinqly, he cryes out fivft, and makes ('') complaint
y^Sn linto th"c Bif]l°P whcn hc !lad no caufc :.but that hec unto b:sLer<ij7}. thought it an high point of wifdome,bcing fa prudent
Pa&7- anddifcrectamanzs you fay hee was, to make furc
work there 5 and then zfco for the Vicar. So that the ^A/frm.w being both a partie, and the- Plaintifetoo,is not to be admitted for a witnelTealfo, except it be by
1'v Ih MMtfit ^omc ncw orc^cr or"y°ur ownc <Jcvifing 5 and like to be a rule hereafter in that (') Can-none, and trivUlt lav, the body of the which we daily lookc for.ofyourfct-
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ting out,
But
But be the letter his,ornot,you think that you have Cap. I. gained three points. Tirft, a good ground to change the tcnour of your ownc, charging the Vicar in your printed Copy, with an intent of fitting up atn-xf//.rr of {lone, which was not to bcc found in all the Manu- fcript : Be/ides, that you have brought himinto fomc disfavour with his ( k ) friend, the Bijhq, for daring to remove the CammMttfanttblejNithout leave from him. Next, for that flovcnly and difgracefull phrafe of Dreffer , given in the Bifliops written letter to the Communion table placed o«f //<!/•• w//?, and from him borrowed by M\'.frynne\ that is now found out to be a phrafc of the rude peoples, AS youcall them : and on them fathered in the printed letter, to take off that fcandall. Laft of alls whereas bowing at the Name of JESUS was in the written letter glanced at, as if it idid procure derifion from the lookers on; that is now turned wholly on the Vicar, and his tight gef ares In performance of that pious ceremony : the printed let ter being altered and explained in that particular ac cordingly. Having got thus much by the hand, you need fay no more, but bcc re your head up bravely, and proclaime your victory. Butasheincflf<«r0£/#r faid, Omnc meum, & nihil rr.cum ; fo may you alfo fay,did you dcalc uprightly, all this that you nave got is nothing, and you may. put it in your eye, without feareof ( l ) blinking. For how may we bee fure th^t Mnnpcttrtbt half-Vic AT ^ asyou call him^.yo. did of his own head remove the Communion table without authority from the Bifhop, Chancellour;t or any */ h'n Surrogates, ( m ) as out of Mr. ^ildcrmAtts letter yort affirmchc did. Icfccmcstomc,thathtacqiwiii£cdrhc t,and found from him, ifnotanappro.
bation,
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ra
i , ' bation, a toleration at the lead, conditioned no umbra ges and offence were taken by the Tcwne againfl it. For thus the IctLerjI-F/^ Ifyake with you laf.J told you that the {landing of the Communion tAblc n\ts unto me a thing fo indifferent, that unlcffc offence and umbrages were ta ken iy the Townc again ft it J frould never move it,cr re move it. Was cot this faire leave think you, to make a trinlljhow fane the people would be pleafed with the altcration,and whether they would think it tended to (n) decency andcomlineffcinthe officiating of CodsDi- •pitdcctaty end vine fcrvicc ; And on this leave the table was rcmo- cousiincte, &c. vct] to tjlc ,thar placc&nd flood fo,til the Alderman, (°)4 difcrcct and modcft man^and far from any humour of Innovation y did by farre Icfle authority bring it down againCj and was never checked for it. Nor can you fay , that the word At/? there mentioned, ( when 1 [pake with you la ft ) is to relate unto that time, when the Vi car and the Alderman cncountred at his Lord'fhips houfe:Becaule it follows in the nextwords,/^*/ which 2 did net then fu/l'ccf^ is tome top.i(fc ; viz. the ^dldcr- mantfid better fort of the toivnc have complained againjl it. The conference then meant,, wherein his Lord- fliip Viewed himfclfe fo indifferent in the bufineflc propofed unto him, imift needs precede the Vicars aclion ; as did the Vicars action the Aldcrmaus riot 5 the Aldcrmans riot,the complaintjand tlic complaint, that fuddca and tumultuary journey to his Lordfliips houfe, which drew out the learned letter now be- tweenc us. And fo your firfl report of the half-Vtcars liafty running, before hec was fent, is, for the truth thereof difproved, or made very difputable. Thco- thcr branch thereof, pouching thc/?«w Altar that you tilkc of, is fane more improbable 5 and you arc faine
to
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to chop & charfge the Bifliops letter to make it good, Capl I. and yet .cannot doc it. For whereas it wss charged upon the Vicar in t he tf. S, Copies, thr.t heefliCHila&'c y£ violent anflearntft for an //tar, it the upper end of the J^ifre .- you have it in the printed letter, thr.t he/kotilJ fay heewiuletupon his owns cojl btt;i;lw\ Altar of ftonc At the uf per end of his ^Wrr: which is too great a diffe rence to he an crrour in the tranfcripts. Secondly, in (lead of that oblation which the Prills were next ft offer upon their t^//«r/,you now have made it th.it oblation which the Papifis were wont to offer upon tbffc ^iltars : end fo by changing thefc to theirs, have turned a Pro- tcflant Tulle to a I'tptjh ^ItAr. Thirdly snd laftly, whereas the fir ft feaion jr. the written copies,conclu- dedthus,/^rf/brc / knew yon w;!lr,ci change A tdllcin- to an Altar .• you hjvc converted it to this, therefore I knowyiu will not build any foch s.lt»r ; As creit an al teration in the bufinefTe,cs the words themfelves. For had that bccnc the bulincflcthen in agitation, and not the placing of the Table otf/A>r-ip/'/;, his Lordfliip might have gone to bed that night/ as indeed hcdid) . & ended all his Utter with the h'rft icflion ; Ix ing but 2 4. lines in your own printed Copy, and that corrup* ted too to ierveyour turnc : whereas there is a lanjc difcourfc againft the placing of the Table filter -wife, -mounting to above two leaves in your own Edition. I trow the writer of rhe letter was too good an Artl- %an,iwt*><x*fttyn jw/f.^to fpcnd himfeifnpon theacccf- lary, and It t the principal! be the le.1 ft part of his ca re andftudy.-efpecially confidcring how he might tlirre- by gratific the whole townc of Gram bam, to which he had beenc fuch nfriend^whtn he w.ts in yUcc. As little truth there is in your inventio of the drefrcr^
which •
oo
Seel;, i. which you hive turned upon the rudtfe^lt „•
ones indeed, to give fe vilcandfcandalousanamcto a thing fo facreci, in whatfoevcr pofture it was placed orfituated. What is it, Ibcfeechyou, thatyou have made the people fay ? that he( the Vicar,) fhoutdfct np no drcffcrs of jlonc in their Church . Drfffers ofjlone ? It fcemcs tiic people were as rude as you dcfcribc them j fo little converfant in matters which concer ned the Church, that they were yet to fecke in things which did concernc the kitchin. Had the ^//rr«f ///- dermtn no more difcrerion, than to informchis LP. of fo rudt a fpeech j and tell him in his care a ftory of 4 Jl*»e.JreffcrjNhcn as he might as well have told him a tale of a Tubb i Had the rude feoplc^ as you call them, applied the name of dreffer unto ti\c holy Table placed along the wall, the fpeech hadbccnc more proper, though not IciTc prophane. But now to put the name of drcfferofftone into the mouthes of Coun- trey people, who never heard of any fuch thing asa drefferofjlonc : fhewcs plainly, that neither any Altar tfjlenc was ever purpofed by the Vicar, which might occafion fuch an idle and abfurd cxpreflfion j northat the writer of the letter tookc up thenamcof^jf/fr from the Countrcy people, but firft invented it him- fclfc. i^ddto njcndacierum nature (ft, ut cehtrcrc nen po/tnt, Hiid LtciAntifts rightly. Yourmyfc, and your drtffer then, may both goc together,, ttltraanni foliffe WAS, to your dearc brethren in New Engl. and their great Patriarkc there, your good friend /. C. who as they care not now in 'what place they difpofc of the holy table 5 fo will they care as little, in a little while, by what name they call it. Of the fame peece is that laftobfcmtion nwdc out of Mr. ^Idcrmw letter,
touching
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touching the Vicars light bcbwiour, in bowing At the nameefjcCus: hisbooke fomctimes f Ailing downe, and cnce himfelfe. Which were it fo, why doc ybuthinkc that that fliould make your friends of Grant f^tm deride the ceremony, when not the ceremony, but the Vicar wasin fault, if fuch fault there was, Have you not feenc fomemen behave themfclvcsfo apiilily in the Pulpit,thatothers,and thofe good men to®,h;ive fmi- led to note it? And yet I hope you will not thinke, that therefore they derided that religious Ordinance of preaching, when not the Ordinance, but the Prc.i- chcr was the fole object of the merriment. Or if the men of Gr. or rather the rude people there, were fo profane and impious, as upon that or any other fuch occafion to deride theccremony ,thc wrkcr of the let ter might have fpent his pains to better purpofe,(')/>; ..,
writingto the fentewbatmorc at Urge, than be hdth nfed ttn. fo)°" to fxp&Jfe himfdfe in that /r/W,to bring them to a bet- "u^c^l. let, ter underftanding of their Chriftian duties. And you, pas-ij. the Champion of the letter, had done a better office, as I conceive it, to have referved your fclfe for the de fence of that, and the tenor of it, if any Puritan in the pack fliould have writ againft it, than thus to have dif- turbed your fclfe with fo little profit. But what if wee joyne ifllie with an (() ^ilfant hoc, and tell you (ONfgatiom's there was no fuch falling, cither of the bookc, or nun, formula ,q(ia in asyouplcafetofay. For tell mce of al 1 jovcs, where R^Atori* was it, in the Reading pew, or at the Communion aflcmonc m in« Table, or in what place elfe i If in the Reading pc\v, £™ur- s!tlm- the dcske and feat were able to hare faved them both from foiling ; and fo was the Communion table, if it had beene there '. If not there,fay man,wherc it was, and wee will have a mtlw inquirtfldttm about it pre-
D fently.
Sc&. i. fcntly. Thisisatvickof yours to difgracc the Vicar, on whom clfcwhcrc you have left a ftaine, for taking hi* mornings dr aught before he went about it ,p. 62. As if
WP'g.*- tne man 5 not Onc^y wcre not Always right (<) in th^j (uyroat'quiT- hcad-fcece, and (u) fquirrcll-ptitcd , which might be ""•' bc*<t:it :.oun* f0me infirmity of nature : but that hee came uoto the Church, difordered with drinkc,and inter focal* told the people, qtiiddiApoematti n.irrtnt of the name of JESUS, and hfelldownt and rvtrfhipfesl, inftcad ef bowing.
In the remainder of the ftorie,you put an excellent fpeech into the mouthes ofthofc vtCratithaw, partly commendatory of thcmfelvcsi, thst they were all (0 p»s-!- (*}-peaseal>lc & quiet ww,(avethat they fought (b)once ffill^'7. inthcChurch, about removingoftlie table ; c»»ftr. p^j.«. ' ' mablc in ak things to the Kings Urves ecclejiafticafljkvc that they could not but Jeriac the ceremonie of bowing at thcn&mcoflefuf ;and willing ttfubmit themfthes t« any Order which his Lvjlieuld jppoint , concerning thf^t ftttiAtion of the Lords table 3fo it might (fond according as they would them feivcs. And it was alfo partly ac- cufatorie of their Ft car, for putting down tneirweck-. Jy Le6iure,and partly of their owncill fortune, that they fhould live in the vtidftofjltcufints, who did be gin Already to deride and jceretbis new alteration: not without fome reflexion on his facred Majeftie, for (,yr;*v r?./«/c («) placing over them a chitfe Governor of that rcligi- on* ^'s ^a)c^^c 'vva8 muc^ to blame, there is no doubt of that, fornot confukingwhhthe./f/</a7ftf0 about the fitteft man to be L* Lieutenant ofrlie Coun ty : but more , the Papifts, to deride that decencic and fit nation of the Lords boordc, there, which they ap- . prove of clfcwhcrc in all our Churches. And I could
tell
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tell you,did I thinlce you would thankcmeforif,th*t Cap. tl the conformity of our Church in this particular, ac cording to the praftice of approved Antiquity, doth more amaze the Papifts, than ever it did thofe of Grant ham : as knowing better than they doe, that the more nccrc wee come to the ancient practice , the- lefle they can upbraid us, and our Church with no velty, which is now made the chicfefl weapon that they fight withall. As for the (d) putting downc ofScr- (»'•) «/«/r/,whcrcwith they were mitchfcA»dAlizcd^ as your book informs us, that was the very marrow-bone of the matter, the thing thatmoftdifplcafed the people, who muft have Chaplaines of their owne, orclfe»00 vultfac. And had they had their talc of Sermons, ic may bee probably conjectured, that Mr. ^Alderman had never removed thetabtc^ but rather left it for a text,on which the ftipcndaric Le&urers, there, might fhew their ftore of zeale, and want of wifdome. But to goe on. The people having ended, and the Bifhop forward in his fpcecli, about the indiffcrcncic of the matter, it was the Vicars Q^to enter, who came in (6)^<«/<r, and wnvne, andj?rfr/'»^, cbjlttpait, ftctcrtntejitc fe* , comt, as you know who faith, was by the Z>'//?;^ ufcd '
with all lenity and fvectntffc : andatlafts having told his LP (bcing(f)vcry etrneji to get it out of him)who it was that (ft him on thefe alterations, his LP fpake aloud that all might hcnre him , that hc Mfrftd,, tha, wfnch the Vicar told him. It is an old fayingand a true, aHdaftcr talnmniare, neceffcejtut alt quid hxreat ; by none more practiced than your fclfe. For though you leave us in a wood , and tell us, that (3) it is not (E) p.,g. 9 knowncf articular lj , rvhnt they there difconrfctl of : yet by this blindc diicovcry you make men iufpcd, that
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fome great man, to whom the Vicar did rctaine, in- couraged him, at the leaft, to erect an <^f/tar,\f not to fay M ifle on it, when it was erected. Well then, the Bifhop5being gone, betakes himfclfc unto his ftudy, whercf as you fay )he fat up mojl of the ntght^nd in the morning (as you tell us)camc abroad this('>) fit A unites roflh, this letter to the Vicar, which is now in qucfti- on, addreffcdunto the Vicar,bcing then in the houfe ( if youtcll us right ) but ( » ) fent'/o the Divines of the Lecture of Gr. and by themfhtwed unto the Vicar. > A letter of fo It range a making, thatit wouldpuzzlc the bcft Lecturer there, to tell exactly what it wasj (k) digejlcdin the former part int* the fa/hion of a letter > but ntt fo ftgtiredly dnddiftintfly in the latter : directed tone lody^ nor fubfcnbed by any body .In al 1 w hich (to- ry, there is nothing true, butthat the papers were not lent unto the Vicar, but to foine one or other of your frivacbs about thofc p;u ts,the better to clifpcrfe it up and downc the Ceuntrcy :and that not on the mor row morning, but fome ten dayes after. For that it was directed to the Vicar, the whole proeme fhewcs, which could not be applied unto any other ; cfpecial- ly thefe Words, New f*r your orvne Jati.fctfio*, and my peore advice for the future, I have written twtoyeufomt- ' vtbM more At iirge, &c.
That it was falhioned like a letter in the latter end, the conclufion flicwcs, even in your owns edition of it, ll'hich I recommend unto yott) and am evcr^c. And I would faincknow what thefc words,4w ever^did re late unto, if not to the fubfcription following, which in my written copy was fet downc thus (although not printed with the reft ) and Am ever, Your very loving
To
To draw unto an end of this new-nothing, you tell us confidently (like all the reft) what 0) fatisfatJion the poorc Vicar had by this <&«/?«»; bavinggainedall f A<?00/V;tt,yoil fay, cxccptingthe forme of placing thc_j> Table > which was the onely point hee ftoo J on : and that the Vicar after this did reap much jrnit and profit front his Lordfiips favour , from whom lice never re ceived any favour, from that time forwards. So fine a ftorichavc you told, and fo little probable, that they that dwell farreoflf , and arc not of the voUinage, can take you tripping.
Now for the letter it fclfc,you tell us,thatit(m)v4- ricth in fome places in matter from the printed Copic^ but little in forme. Nothing at all in forme, that is cer- taine, but much in matter : fo much as you thought fit to alter in itsthe better to fctoff the bufmeflfe,and give afairefaceto fo foulc a caufc. Thofc Copies which I met with, and compared, and had from very good hands too 3 were word for word exemplified in the printed booke. And ifyou lookc into T>uck-hnc for the old written copies, which, till the Doctors booke came out, were fold for halfcacrownca peece, and doubtleflc may be had there ftill, if not imploycd to other ufcs ; you will find no fuch variance in the mat- tcr, as you would ncrfwade us.Which variancc,what his, and how it alters in a manner, the whole flatc of thequeftion, wcefliall fee the better, by placing co- * lumnc wife thofe particular pafifagcs, in which the va-, riance doth confift, according to the old and the new edition, as hcreunder followcth.
D 3 Tht
ThcM. S. Copie printed The Copic licenfed with the Coal from and allowed by
the Altar.
PAge6%. I have, Sec. Pag. 12,1:,. ,v,.
appointed the Church- appointed the Church-rvar-
wardens, whomitprin- dens, whom, in my opinion,
cipally doth conccrne, it principally doth conccrne,
under the Diocefan, to under the Diocefan, and by
fettle it for this time. his dircclions,?0/?///<r it for
the time .
doe the reverence ap- reverence appointed by tht_>
pointed by the Canon Canons to that bleffed name
to the bleiTed name of of J E s u s, fo it be donc^>
JESUS, fo it be done humbly, and not affeciedly,
humbly , and not affe- to procure the devotion, and
cledly, to procure devo- , not move the derifion of the
tion,not derifion of your Parifiiwcrs^vho are not, it
ParifHoners. • feemes, all of a pecce.
fag. 69. But that you P;ig. 13. B tit that you
mould be fo violent and fiould fay , you will upon
Cornell for an Altar ac your oxvnc coft build an
the upper end of the Altar of ftone at the upper
Quire. end of -tour Q'tirc.
r_, t ^ t?*^— *
/'.f^.tf^.That the fix- Pag. 13. That the fixing
ing thereof in the Qiirc thereof in the Quire is fo ca-
is Canonicall,and that it tJonicall^that it ought not to
ought not to bee reino- be removed (upon any oc-
ved to the body of the cafion) to tie body oftb<^>
Church. Church.
69. That other Pag. i^That other obU-
tion
The hew Edition. tion which the Papijls were w»nt to offer upon thcfe Al- tars , ft a bLifthcrnow fg- ment,&c.
Pag. 14. It u not thc^> Vic At) but the Church-war- dens that are t» frovidz_j \lcnb\sforthtCommttnion.
7 knew you. will wt build any fuch Altar, which ri- CAYS never were enabled to fctup,&c;
Pag. 1 5. Forbeftdcsth.it the country people without fomedire&ios beforehand from their Super iors,nw//df (as they told you to your facc}fnppofe them dreffers^ rdther than tables.
Pag. 15. Notwherethz_j Alur^ but where the Jiffs to the Altar formerly fttod.
their covers, fronts, wdo- thcr Ornaments, tables may be placed in their roome.
Pag.i6. ^inditfcemes the gueene and her Coun-
Tbt old Edition.
oblation which the Pa- pifts were wont to offer upon their Altars , is a blafphemous figment , Cx:c.
rag.tig. Ir is not the Vicar , but the Churcli- waidens,thataretopro- vide for the Connuuon.
Ptg.yo. And there. fore I know you will not change a table into ;m Altar, which Vicars ne- vcrwere enabled tofet up, &c.
Ptg.ji. Torbefides that the Country people would fuppofc them drcflcrs, rather thanta- bles.
^£.71. Not where the Altar,but where the fleps of the Altar for merly flood.
Fag.^^. Or to make ufc of their Covers and ornaments, tables may be placed in their room.
P^.ya. Anditfecms the Queens Commiflio- D4 ncrs
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"T
Jt 1 be old Edition.
ners were content they fliould (land.
flee of' the Altar nbolifli- ed,thefc(c\ill them what you will ) are no more Altars, but tables of (tone and timber.
p*£-73' Whcrerhcrc are no people fo void of underftandin*.
O
**&•! 3 • For upon the Orders of breaking downeAltars, allDio- cefcs did agree upon re ceiving Tables, but not upon the faflnon and forme of the tables.
T lie new Edition. fell were content they fiould
73. A Table in regard of wlu;t is there participated by men.
r>ig .73. Fo r i t a 11 fwers that very objection' out of Hcb. 1 3. 10.
Pag. 74. We have no Altar in regard of an ob lation , but we Iravc an Altar in regard of parti cipation & communion granted unto us.
Pag. 1 6. The facrifice of the <J\laffc abolifled (for which fii.crin'ce oncly Al- tars were creeled) thcf<^ (call them what jcit pleafc) are no more si I tars, but ta bles of ft one or timber.
Pag. 1 6. 11 'here there are r.o people fo 'void of inftru- ttion.
Pag . 1 6 . For upon t/jc_j Orders of breaking dcivne^j
as well as that of London, did agree upon receiving Talk's, but f.'ot fo foone///>- on the forme and fafiion of their tables.
Pag. 1 6» ex/ table in re gard of what U thence par- ticipatedby men.
Pag. 17., For it an fivers that merry obj(fiio/t out of
Pag. 17. Wee have n$ 4ltar in regard of an cb* lation,bnt we have an Altar, that is a table,/;; regard oft participation And communi on \\\QK granted unto tu.
Pag. 1 7.
The new Edition.
Pag. 1 7. The proper ujc of an Altar is tofacrifict_j ttpon^ and the proper ufe of A tablets tocatcupon. llea- fons, &c. 1550. videAcls & Monuments, pag. 1211.
Pag. 1 7 . The Church in herLitnrgie and Canons cal ling the fame a, Table oncly, do not you now, under the Reformation*// lt&n< iltar.
Pag. 17. In King Ed wards Littirgie cfi 545?. it #almoft every where called
Tie eld Edition. /).^.74.Thc ufc of an Altar is to facririce up- on,nnd the ufc of a table is tocateupon.
I.
an
Pag. 17. The people be. ingfcandalized herewith in Country Churches , frft, it ieemeSj beat them downe de faclo; then the fuprcmc Ma- gijlratc (ashcrc the King) by the advice of Archbi- ftop Cramncr, and the reft of his Counfell, &\A* Anno 1 5 5 o .by a kinde of Uw, put ^w^cjv»dejure,4.Ed.6. Novemb.24.
Pag. 17. i^f unfitting the (c tables in their rootnes, tooke away front usjhc chil dren 0/this Church & Com- won.wcdthjbeth the
,4. The Church in her Liturgicand Ca nons calling the fame a table oncly, do not you call it an Altar.
Pag. 74. In King Ed wards Liturgieof 1 549. it is every where called an Altar.
P*g» 74. The people being fcandalized here with in Country Chur ches, firft beats them do\\rnedef*™o, then the fupremc Ma gift rates ,by a kind of law, puts them dovfnctlfjtirc.
j. 74. And fating tables in their roomes, tookc fromu-, the chil dren the Church and Common-wealth, both the
. 1 he old Edition. the name and the nature of former Altars.
•^£.75. If is in tnc Chriftian Church 200. years more ancient than the name of an Altar, as you may fee moft lear nedly proved out of S.
FauL Driven* and Arxo-
« i tout , if you but rcade a
booke that is in your Church.
Pag. j6. That your Table mould (land in the higher part oi the Church 5 you have my affent already in opini on : but that it mould be there fixed,is fo far from being Canonical], that it is dircclly againft the Canon.
Pag.'jj. This table muft not ftand Altar- wife,&youat theNorth end thereof , but table- wife, and .you muft offi«
Th4 new Edition.' And the nature of thofe for mer Altars.
Pag . 1 8 . // if in the Chri- Jiian Church at the lead 200. ye ares more ancient than the name of an Altar in that fenfe, ttyott may fee mojl learnedly f roved (bc- fide what we learnc out of S. Fanl}ont 0/Origcn and Arnobius , if you doc but reade a betke that is in th<Ls Church.
Pag . 1 8 , 1 9 . That your table jhould ftand in thz_s higher fart of the Chancel, you have my ajfent in opini on already : And fo it was appointed to ftand out of . the Communion orders by the Commiflioncrs for caufcs Ecclefiaftical. 1 561 , />«/ that it fiould be thereat fixed, Is fo far front being the onc\y Canonical! wa.y^ that it is directly againft the CA* no>j.
Pzg.2o.Tbis table (rvith- out Ibme new Canon) is not to ftand i^4ltarrvifL~>9 and you at the North end thereof-, bat table-wife, and yttt
The new Edition. The eld Edition.
#/? officiate on tle^j ciate at the North end
North fide of the fame , by of the fame. the Liturgic.
Pag. 20. ^nd therefore 7V£. 78. Andtherc-
yonr Parishioners muft bc_j fore your Parifhioncrs
Judges of your Audtbleneffe muft be Judges of your
in this cafe, and upon com- nudiblenefTc in this cafe. plaintto thcOrdinary muft be relieved.
Thus have I (hewed in briefe your fft^/Mtm, your tricks and artifices, whereby you fcckc to varniflia rotten caufc : falfifyingthe very Text which you are to comment on, that it may fit your notes the better. A pregnant evidence that there is no faire dealing to be looked for from yoUj when you fliall come either to rcpcate your advcrfaries words, or cite your Au thors. But fairc or foule, we muft goc through with you now we have begun :and fo on in Gods name.
CHAP. II.
OfthcRcgall power in matters Ecclefiafticall, and whether it was ever exercifed in fetlins
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the Communion table in forme ot an Altar.
The Vftlne Ambition of the Minifter of Line: to be thought* Roytlift. HH prattice contrary to his {peculations. TheDoflor tlearedfrom the five Cavils of the Minitter of Line: touching the Stat.i.Eliz. The Minifter ofLincifalfifietbfotbtke Dottort dt) and the Lo; CkAncclloar Egcrtons. The Puritans more
beholding
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$C/l, j f" beholding to hivt tfiMt the Kin*. The Miniftcr of Line: mifrefor. tetb the Doflors vrordsjucly to picket fjttttrrett with bis Mtjeftiet Cb*pp:!l. Afecond oo-fet on the Chjppe!l,grounded upon Another fjlfification efthe Doctors words. Of mother Chappcls,T6f /?<y. aft Chappell hstv it may befnid to interpret Kubricks. The Mini- fler of Line.' quarrels with tOueen Elizabeths Chappell', And for tbatp',trpo(efti!fifieth both hisfvrraine .•nthcrs>Anddcmeftick^e'vi- dences. Not l^ffping^itt adoring images, enquired into in thefirft yeere of Qyecnc Elizabah.Ttaf by the tQuee»s lnjnnttionstOr- : den And Advertisements^ thf Table TVM tofltnd where the Altar did. The i.ile anfiver of r/;# Minifter of'Linc-./fl tht Doftort Argtt~ mint. Aharsc^Pit;con-houresrt//-*//^r,»'/>^^//Linc:Mimfter. The Minirter ofL\ncif*//i and faulty argument tdr*ivn fern the pcrufcrsoftheLicurgic, tht troubles *t l:ranckforc, and Miles Huggirds ttftimoHj. Offl^ndin^ettthe North. fide of tbeTable. The Miniftcr of Line: producetk the pontificall tgatnft himfelfo. His idle cavdt with the Doftor touching tht Latine tr/tnjlatf«a of the Common-pray erBookSThe Parliament determined nathing concerning taking aoivn of Altars. The meaning dnd intention of th.it Kubrick. The Minillcr of Linci p.i/rers with his Aftjefties Declaration about ^.Gregories. is4 copy ofthefDeclar*tion.Tbe futnme Andfnl>ftf.nce of the DiclarAtion.RegAll decifitns in parti* cuUr cafes 3 ofnhat pontr and efficacy.
the one a lover of Alexander, the other
3n u '3 Hcpbefitn loved his pcrfon, as a private
friend 5 Cratcrw his cftate and Monarchy, as a pub- liqueMinifter. Princes are then beft fcrved , when thcfeaflcdions meet together; when thofe that either r.rc about their peiTons, or under their dominions, (bj doe Crater urn cum Hcpheftioneco}jfttndere.)m& love them not alone as men, but Princes, whom they doe mod truely love. Both of thefc parts this Seme-body,
whom
whom I am to clealc with, would faine fccmtf to aft : Cap^ 2! and he doth a& them rightly ,as a player doth , in a dif- guifc or borrowed fliape, which hee can put off when nelifts,6c the play be ended. But ytt for all his vizard it is.no hard matter to difcerne him, his left hand pul ling downe, what his right hand buildeth ; all that au thority and regard r. hich he beftowed upon the King in the fpeculation, being gone in ftiwo, as they fay, when it mould be reduced to praftife. Of the origi- nall of 'the Kr.g&ll power, you tell us very rightly that ir is from God, that the Kings ( «)of £»£/«w/havc had (^.15.3*, the flown of Ecclcfiaficall \nrisdntion, flitch in their Imterull garlands Jay the finger if Almighty God from the very beginning if this Chrtflian CMonarchy within this Ifland j and that the Kings Majejfy may commando. gr(4ter matter ffthif vatitre, than that the holy Table fituld bee plascd where the <Jdltar flood. An excellent RoyAllift verily in your Jpfcidations. But look upon you in yourpratftcks, & then you tell us in your cor reeled copy of the liifliops letter, that the T*ble(wilhcut fome wwCanon}is nottofland Altar-wife; which isdircdly contrary to that before. I trow you are not ignorant that the Church makes Cations.lt is the work cf Clergy rneain their Convocations, having his Majefties leave for theirconvcening,antl approbation ofthcir doings. His Majcfty in the Declaration before the Articles hath refolved ir fo j and the late praclitc in King lames his raignc, what time the Book of Canons was compofcd in the Convocation, hatlu'cclarcd fotoo. If then the Table may not bee removed nnd placed ^Itar-wife^ without fome new Canon ; His Majefty may com mand it, for ought I fee by you, and yet goe without, tillheisauhouzedtodoeit by fopie jtwCawa. Or if
you •
ii you mcdne that any order from his Majeftic, or inti mation of his pleafure, mall be as forcible with you, ns any Canon of them all ; why doe you fo much flight his MajtfHcs Declaration about S. Gregorics ? For neither can the man indure it Ihould be called an \^iQefCou»fellt (which yet the Doctor never calls it, to his belt remembrance , ) or that it fliould have any influence beyond that one particular cafe, which firft occafioned it: in no rcfpccl that it mould have the operation of Canon., cither to force obedience, or in- duce conformity. So that in fine, you dealc no other- " wife with his Majcfty,than didPtpiliutLc»ja with the . ti. grcatKing(d) dtitiiehttt^Hi rege circumfcripft virgnla, as the ft one hath it. You draw a ring about him with your willow fcepter, as if you meant to conjure him into a circle,and fokeepe him there. Thus deale you alfo with his perfon, (for you would very faine be taken for Hcphefion, as well as Craterus.) You tell us CO PaS -J>- of c his heavenly exprefiws iifed iniliatDeclaration be fore rcmembred 5 and yet think {corn to follow what he there allowes of : talke of his (f) fared Cbappcff, and the Saint of that Cbappe/l ; and in the fame breath tell us, that PArifl) -Churches are as little bound to imi tate tit forme andpattcrne of the one, as you conceive your fclfe obliged to imitate the piety and true devo tion of theothcr. Stint of the Chippell ! Lord how the man beflowes his holy waiter ^ when he hath a mind to t'g)Vir. j-ncicL it. (s) Spargcrc rare Icvi & ramo f elicit olivie, Lnftra- vit/jHC -viros^ in the Poets language. Yet no fuch Saint, I trow, as FtrdinanAothc third, of whom you fay cVfa- both in (h) the text , .and in your margin,, that in bis mts, nccpcilis [Ong raignc of ^ . yecres, thcrew*s no touch of hunger or fuo pa"! J° tonttgitn. There was a Saint indeed, fit to be ftiewne
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unto the world, as a publikc bleffing : in reference to C3.p^ 2* whom, and his moft fortunate Empire , thcrfc wret ched times have nothing whereof to glorie. Sir, that Parenthffts of yours,asit comes in impertinently, fo it lookes fufpicioufly : and it hadfhewne more wifdomc in you to have palled it by, than it can make for often- tation of your reading, fo to take it up.
But let your^6?/Wgoe, and come we toyour^- fitlatitttsjn which you havefaid much, and produced good proofs , to flit w the true originallot the right of Kings, 0) Vtinam fie fcmp er crraffet , faid once the learned Cardi#*N,o{Calvitt. It had been well if you had never handled any other argument. Butgood Sir, let thepcort man live, and grow up under you, if you pleafc , whom you expofe fo much to the publick fcornw, and tAntum ttea enditc of treafon againft his Majcfty. AiTuredly the peort foule meant well, when he attempted to free the Statute i .of Eliz. from fome, (pcrhaps^wf ^Minijlers of Lincolnfoirc} who had re- ftrained it to the perfon of the guecnethtt. was, and thought it could not any way advantage the/\'/>?£ that is. Ifheehath failed in any thing, I pray you let fiim have your pit-ty,and not your anger. Alas goodSir,you Jcnowitisimpoflible(k;^w////Vo^y2-//f'»a, that wee fhould all of us be experienced Statefmen at the firft dafli. We muft firft fcrve our timc,and weare out our Indentures ,> before we come to thofc high myftcries, which any fchoolcboy might have taught you from C1) his Dew & Rex, Thinkc you that no man ever knew till you found it out,that Kings had their autho rity from God alone ? or finde you any thing in the Dodor, which affirmes the contrary * the Dodor, as before was faid, thought fit to cleere the Statute i . of
I. Eliz. from thofe that went about to rcftraine all au thority of ordaining rites and ceremonies unto the perfon of the Qucene, becaufe there is no mention in that claufc of her heirs andfncccfjers. To clcare which point he brought in fixe fcverall Arguments,borrow- cd, as lice tells you there, loth from the common Law, andt/jeJitttfelfi. Thefoure firft, as itfeemes, you are content Ihould ftand without further cenfurejfavc that you tell him that the fourth was taught him by (n>; At titfc foine / m) j(tilice fr^ clerk^ and make your fclfc merry Pnfaintis • i I V,- i r TT • m 1 i ™ j • j J M,*hitb(fn' with the ntt and fixt.How )ultly,let thcRcader judge,
*d;.ntHit) }M* when he hearcsthe bufindfc. The t]ucftionwas,whe- Might'ui!)^. l^?cr ^lc K*nS ^°'ft anV tmnS °f that power which was p.iy. acknowledged by that Statute to be inherent in the •
Qi^ccn when ilie wi's alive, for want of thefe few for- (") cotkfnm mall words, her htirts andftcceffors. And it is f11) an- " ' fvvcrcd fifily from a refolution in the law, in a cafe "much like : it being determined by that great Law* "yer Ploy don, (for fo the laft edition calls him) that ", if a man qivc lands to the King by deed inrollcd, a "fee-ftMplt(lothp,i([c, without thefe words fttccejfors " andhcyres, becaufe in Judgement of Law the King " never dyeth. This is an argument A corner at if. Ana what fee you therein with your Eagles eyes, ( the Doctor being but a blinker, (°) as you plcalc to ftylc him) that you fliould fall upon him with fuchfcornc and laughter, and tell him that hcc doth defcrve but (f)4fimplefee9fffr his imp(rtinc»t example of this fee- ftmple. The Argument was good to the point in hand, which was not what the King could do by his power 0>7g7iM#9that which he chimes onely from the King of Kings, which was never queftioned : but how far hcc might ufc that Statute, ifoccaflon were, for the
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ordaining of fuch rites and ceremonies, as he with the Cap, tdvicc of bit Mctr9p9lit*n,(h.oM thinkc fit to publifh. You may call in your laugh ngain,for ought I fee yet : but that you have a minde to fhcw your teeth, though you cannot bite.
But his 0) nextprank) you fay, is worfe, where hce affirmes, ( moft ignfrtrttly, and moft derog&torily to his UWajefties right and jtift Prerogative ) that the Statute I . of Eliz.a .TVM A confirmative of the old Uw ; whereas his Authour hath it rightly,* ^tf it vat not a Statute in- trodntfory of a new law, but declaratory of the old. This is the hint you take to introduce your ftudicd dif. courfcof the power of Kings in Eccleftafic^ which neither is tdrem, nor Rhowbum : but that you would doe fomcwhat faine to be thought a Royalift ; how ever the poor people take it to be fodcfcrtcd. Vortell mce in good earneft, doth the Doclor fay that the Hud Statute i ,of £//7. wasoncly cwfrnMtivetnnd not At. chrAtory of the ola? Doth he not fay cxpreflely,as you would have him? Laft of all ,(')( faith hisbook)it may " bee argued, that the faid claufe,or any thing therein "contained,is not indeed int rodHfl try 0 fatty new power • «' which was not in the Crown be-fore, but rather dc. "ctaratery of the «/</,which anciently did belong to all " Chriflian Kings,(as before any of them to the kings c< oflttdah 'and amongft others to ours alfo. If after wards he ufc the word confirmative, you might have found his meaning by his fir ^Declaratory: ¬ have falneuponhimin fo fierce a manner, as if he had been onely tor confirmative^ and for declaratory not one Word.But)'<?«r next frank is worfe than this, where you affirm with confidence and fcornc enough,(f;that this right is not united to the Crown of England ently, <ts this
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firibler feentes to conceive, but to Mother Crcwuest chalenged by all Chnflian Princes according- (?.(') Proh dctim atejue hominum fdem \ that ever man
1 MfM i I/i t^»rlt#*^M^c X^ I-\^ ! ^» ^. t «> . l^t*- /^^..^ ,..!,„ L 1 _ l_
And™, Aft.i. fa\M Writcthus,£ bclccvc his Creed, in that which doth relate to theday of Judgement. For fure the Do- dor faith as much, as all yourftudied nothing comes
(u> CMftfrom to, that the faid power did(*-)*mitntli belong ( wh:it,to
tht..tt*-3 ['.6o. this Crown alone,as you make him fay?No,but)f« all
Chrtfian Kir.gs^ (good Sir note this wcll)<w before any
. of them to the Kings ofludah, And awongfl others to ours
alfo. Not unco ours alon?, but Amoxgetkcrs to ours &l-
Jo. Or if this yet be no foulc dealing,we will trieoncc
(T^SJ.JI. more. You tell us, with great joy no qucftion,(x)That tomaintdin that Kings hwc any part of their authority by a»y ft/it we Lw of nations, {AS this fcri bUrficak soft j«* rifautiojvhich either i,< or enght to be in the Crown by the Ancient U\ves of the Realm^ is confirmed by i .El.c. I .-) isMcouKtcdby that great ferfonage(\\\t Ld Chancellour l:.gcnon\\njfitrlioriofA ircafonablt nature JUitby your leave a li1 tie Sir,tliat p ifr.i^e of a \ttrt (diet ton ^hich ei ther ii or ought to be in the Croivne bj the ancient Lines of theRctlmjs not cheDoCtors,but Sir Edwtrd Cokes £\\o. cited from him who you have honoured with the title oi a deep tcarricdMan in br*focitltyj;2 5 .affirming there ihr.t h.e hath ftatedthe whole qucftion rightly : as here, imm'.'.!iire)yo(ithe recirall of the words before rc- peatedj you lake tzrcac paines, more than you needed, to give his words a fjire con(1ru<ftion. If it was right ly laid by Sir Edw.Cokc, why not by the Doctor { If no fucli treafonable matte r in the one, why doe you charge it on theoulicr t This is the thing complained
.(>)V*'l.Pat.l.i of in the Court- hiftorian : (v) Invidiamnonadcaiifam, fid tid-volurttatctn fcrfonaf^tic dirigere. But yet Gods
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blefling on your heart for your affecYion to Sir Ed- Cap, ward : youdcale with him farrc better nnd more ho- neftly, than with your Lords great Matter, the Lord Chancellour Egerton : whofe words you chop oft' with an hatcher, as if you wanted patience to hearc him out. You cite him in your marginethus: Itw.tsne- vertaugbt trttteitkerky traytors, (asin Spencers^;// /'/; Edw. 2 . timc^ ) or by treasonable Papifts, (as Hording in the Confutation of the stpolegyyh.it kings have their au thority by thefofitive law. Why Iropyou there '. why doe you not goe forwards like an honeft'man t Have youafquinancieinyeurthroat,andc2nnotc'I will doc it for you. Readeon then, (*) "£y tl>eftftivel*wtf " nations, Snd have no more power than the people <{ hath, of whom they take their tcniporall juri(.di<5ti- cc on j and fo Ficlerus, Simnnca^ and others of that {<crew : Or by (editious Puritanes and Sectaries, as •Cc Buchanan de jure rcgni apudScotos, Penry , Knox^ and ctfuch like. This is flat felony, bclccvc mcc, to rob your Readers of the be ft part of all the bufmeflc. For here wchavetwo things which arc wortli the finding: Fir ft what it is, which, as you fay, is by that honoura ble perfonage made to be of trcafonablc nature: viz. not onely to maintaine that Kings have their authori ty by thepofitivelawof nations, but that they have no more power than the people hath. Next, who they bee that teach this doctrine, not onely Tray tors, and treafonable ftfifls , as you make him fay, but alfo fcdttious Sectaries and Puritanes , Buchanan^ Knox and Penry, and fuch like. Nor was it taught by them, the leaders onely, but as it followtth in that place, by thcfc^ndthtfc that are their fcllorvers^andof their faCtt- .en, there i-s in their fAtnphlets toe much Juch trAyterons
£ 2 feed
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t. i. £'/«mff. The Ptfr/V^ arCa ! fcc beholding Co xrow for lending them fo fine a cloakc to hide their Innl' ry.Andhereupon I willconr!,,^ K. ?/.."%
From the original! and fountaine of the fovcMi«nC Tn nuft ncxt fol'r you unto d
thereof. And here you askethc quellion,
placingthe Communion Table W.^fi TotWs you anfwer (for you Phy all parts) ,h« he (halt make « tKk.fnljtbu AfodinuhdtwfrtA,,, •. vTiich are, as afterwards you difpofethem, the fr4a% ,f
hfs ™$f ""'»"'.>'* .9X«*> »j*Ji£J' ln{ his molt Excellent M^t/ietJtfUnHui^out S Gre f «r««. But fir ft, bcfor/wee proceed fi.rthe le't mee ase one queftion: Where doe you findethe Do!
ExccIItnt
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nutter f Nowl,ere,moft certainc jn tie book- s nor any where that I can tell of.but in the ^ Itofy0"rl.n"8lnation.wl'^ there is coynagc all
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k.'ii FrL«, „ ,V™Cf,d' H,s (acted M.i)t-fty hath already decla.
f "'»' Hf«lf „ :cd hls plfalurc in the cafe ofS.Crestrits,wd there r,«^ by „„ ^ to (hc MJ llt^™™
aiid other Or^wrw, to require the like in all the !<<*l.. Cnurchcs committed
.-«w«w are
no C.wau«/, you h.id beft fay fo howfoevcr For if they were I could foone tell you in your care.who is a :very d.fobcicnt fnbjea. But let that pa(Te, cmaCK. "" <"«•>*>», and fccif thatbccbettervvhich comes
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after next. I would fainc hope fomc good of you,but I findc no ground for it : you mifreport him fo excee ding ihamelefly in every paffoge. The firft (you Cay) ofhisthrccApiditficalldentMJIrAtitns, (as you pleafe to flight them) is, that it is fo (d)inhisMtijcftiesC/>.r/>- fell, where the ancient Orders of the Church of Eng land have been bcft prefcrvcd^ and without which (per haps} we had be fore this been at a lo/ft amongst ovrfchcs for the whole forme and fafiion of divine fcrvice. 7~/;c_-> ChappellofthcKing being the bejl interpret c r ofth<L^> law which himfetfenatfed, wherein the Communion Ta- blehathfoftoodaf nowit doth^ftthence the beginning of J2«.Elizabeth,n>^<tf time that Kubrick in the Common- prajcr booke was confirmed and ratified. Thus you re port the Doftors words , and with ihame enough. The Doctor faith not any where, (exclultvely of the Cathcd rails, asyou vouch him here) that the ancient Orders of the Church o/England have been be ft prefer - •uedinhisMa\eftics Chappel, without the which(perhaps) we had been at a, lojfe^c. Thefe are your words, and not the Doctors. The Doctors words are thefe:(c)For tycoaif** the . " certainly the ancient orders of the Church of Eng- " land have bccnc bcft preferved in the Chappelsof " the Kings Majcfty, and the Cathedrals of this King. " dome (good Sir mark you thatj)without the which, "perhaps, we had before this been at a lo(Te amongft " our fclves, for the whole forme and fafliion of di- " vine Service. Here you leave out, moft wilfully, to fay no worfe, and the Cathedrals of this Kingdoinc^ot fo muchtoabufeand falfifie the Doftor, as to dcvifc fomequarrell with his Majefties Chappell^ which you caft many an cvill eye at : And thereupon conclude moft gravely, (f) Tovktt ufcfcrvc our grave andrvor-
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Sect, i . * ty Metropolitans >o:tr Bifrops, our Convocttion konfc,our Parliaments, our Liturgies, hedged in and compelled in with fo many Lawes, Kubricks yVroclamations, and Confe rences, if wee had been long before this at A loffe in Eng land f$r the whole form and fall) ion of divine fervice,bnt for one DcaH.andjo many Gentlemen of the Kings Chap- pell. Lord what a groile ofwords is here drawn toge ther, to fight with nothing but apoore fancy of your own; at moft with one poove Deanc,.ind a few fimple Gentlemen of th:\t contempriMe place, the Kings Chappell Royal!. LefTeftreng,th,P.nd fewer weapons would have beetle fufficknt, to drive this filly troopc before you; whom you might caiily have icattercd ^ with your very breath, and made them waire upon your triumph at the firft words f peaking. Dicitc lo /V,t?/,^' lo Us tiicitc P.<an. Never did any ftory tell of fucli a conquering combatant , ft nee King William thc^j Con<\itcro:tr.
As little truth you ufc inciting of the orher.paflTage fiorn rlu'I)odorste:a ; ami hir Icfle modefl-y in your feco:ul onfct on his M:ijc(lies Chappell. You make the Doctor fay > 7 'he CLippcltofthc Kingtbcing thcbeft Interpreter oftLc.law which himfelfc enacted, wherein if.e (r.^nmniofi table hath Co flood. is now it doth, fwcc the ^^/w/w/^^/^ri'f/yt' Elizabeth ,&c. and then flic out ' r'«-37 • upon him without :•!! pitty, (s) Where did the mun ever /•t\rn; of any Cba{>r;Hin the C.hriftian world, that gavz_s fon;;c .vid fdfoioH of divine fcwicc^ to whole Provinces ? Good Sir hive patience bur a little, I will pay you all . And tell me I hcfcech you fir ft, where did the Doctor ever fay they ihould t The former place jou guelded in the very middle, and this you cutoff in the end. ««''t* Take the whole railage as it lieth together, (h) you
'"'jj'j;** • ^^ -11
Will
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will findcit thus. " Por if we loolce into' the former Cap. Zt " practice either of the Chappels of the King, the heft "Interpreter ofthc law which hiinfclfcnafted, where-
"in the Communion table hath fo flood as now it " doth, fince the beginning of Q^.7: //c/ifo/ £:or of Co'. " legiateandCathtdrafl. Churches jfiu: beft obfcrvcrs of " the form and order of Gods publick ferviccstheVi- " car had good warrant for what hcc did. Here you leave out again the Cathedr.ill And Collcgi.ne Churches, topick afecond quarrelhvith his Majciiies Chappcll: theDoclor faying no \vhcrc,as you make him fay,that the Parochiall Churches are to precedent thefclvcs (exprelly and exclufivcly) by the Chappcll Royall, (though had he laid fo, you would hardly make your partagainft him j but that they arc to precedent tliem. fclvcs by the mother Churches, rinding fuch ftore of SpAHifl^FrenchtItalt4n^ Greek, and L.nin cited in your 'Margin, onely out of a poore ambition to fhcw your /lore:I need not doubt but you canundetftand a piece of £#£///&. Read me this therefore which occurs in the 6. Paragraph of the 2. Section, (') immediately-upon (i)cw/,p. 17. thefe words. Without the which perhaps we h.id before this been at a, /ojfc amongst our (elves for the whole forme and fafoion of divine fervicc. For there it folio weth, " And therefore if it bee fo in the Chappels and Ca- "thcdrall Churches, as the Epiftoler doth acknow. <l lcdge,it is a pregnant argument that fo it ought to be "in the Parochials, which herein ought to precedent " and conformethemfclves, according to the pattern " of the Mother Churches. The O\lothcr Churches, notcyouthat ; not the Mother Chappels. So that you might afwell have faved your ncedlcfiTc difputation, about the inward and the outward motion of thcPrin-
£4 ccs
cesminde 5 as thofe moft triviall, and indeed unduti- full inferences which you make upon it, 1 have heard eft en of a mother Church, but now behold another Chaf. pell, p. 42. and worfc than that, Teach not the daugh ter therefore againft all Antiquity, to jet it out beforetht tntthcr, p. 3 7. you might have alfo fpared your (k) fc- vet-all obfervations of publifliing the new Miflall by Pope Pius grintut, not «it the facred Chappcll, but S. Peterf Church ; thcwwrji cafe, (or, as you mould have called it,thc ridiculous cafe)ofS3JV/»r//»/ hood j
thediflind fervice in the Chappelsof Saiimanca^ thofe that are in Parifh Churchesjtlie fevcrall ufcsof Hnging fcrviccin this Church, the ancient courfes in fomc others. All thcfc areoncly toy cs to take up the time \vith3and conclude nothing to the purpofe which wee have in hand., as they confute not any thing that the Doctor faith. Yet fince you fpcake fo dcfpicably of his Majcfties C/y.^f//,and the ttfc thereof, (!) as one that never heard tillnoivthcufc of the Chappcll : I truft- you \vill not fay that the Kings Chaff ell is fct out in a contimy way, to that required in a law of the Kings ownc making 3 or that the conftant ufngeofthe chap- fds in diisparticularsfincc the firft making ofthatlaw, may not be thought to be agood/;;/<?m«o-ofthelaw it fclfc. You know the old frying well enough^ that
^ eft interpret yrtceptorum. And there fore being it hath beene ftill-, as now it is, in K. Ed. wards Chappell.,\vhom the (*«} judicious Divine t <JM* Hooker calkth Edward the Saint, and Q^. Elizabeths, and ofK./*H0«,andofhisMajeftynow livingjCwhom' God long prefcrve) whom you your fclfe liave ho noured with the ftyle of Saint: We may conclude that the Kings Chappcll in this kind,or the Kings practice.
in
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in his Chappell,may br,and is the beft Interpreter of Capi Z, thofe.R«£r/Vff,£4fv.r,and Canons JU\\K\\ youelfwherc fpeak of. Nor could you preach a \vorfe,though per haps no more welcome do&rine to your dcare ditci- ples,than that his Ma jetties Chap fell is not ordered as it ought to be: who prcfently might make this ufe thereof,that they would be as little careful to obferve . the law in their fcvcrall Pariflits. Regis ad excmplttfK. You know right well what followcs,though you will not follow it. If therefore the Communion table doe {land Alt ar-wi fern his M • jcfturs Chafpcll^ as moft furc & it doth ; and that /'/ be A finnc agawft mam precepts, to doubt or whiter Jbut that the King doth wifely andrdigi- Oftjly /'#/V5as p. 34. you fay it is : why ftiould not that give law to the Part]}) Churches ••> or why fhouldyotr debar them from a conformity with that, which feemcs fb wifely and rcl/gioujly done, in the Chappcll Roy all ? Here is a riddle indeed, if you talke of riddles.
Havingbeen bold (as never any man was more) with his Majcilies Chapptl.you cannot leave off fo, b"* y on muft have a fling a{Qj£li&4lctk,and hers:and («; n>ijh (") P'& tbeDottor had not named at all the beginning of£>j.. Eli- zabeth. For then fay you, there rv*t an Alt.ir in thz_j Chappel,andthe very cldmaffe officiated thereupon. The very old majfe ? What is your meaning? I hope you doc not thinke, though you fpeakc fuipicioufly, that that which hath beene imce officiated thereupon, is a icflf dJ/Jr too, though fomewhat f.cwcr (") • the hrg- (o Hj}jMa(fc,^ your good friends the Puritans have been '
r /- j M- VT i r r c
pleated to call it. Nor need you be to lorry for name- ing rhe beginning of Q^en Eliz,ab:th,zs, if you would have palfcd it over with a Soit pour non dul, for feare the Doctor f of \vhofe credit you arc very carcfull)
fhould
Se«£l. i. fliouldbe fufpe&ed for feme hopes of having the
Maffe fct up againc : asp. 5 1 . you tell him what great hope he hdth.of having one day AU ,-.' It AT and a facrij:cc_j forjoj of b: sdi Agr AW. The Doftor fpeaks not of pla cing the Communion table,fo as it flood in the begin.
(?) C'J''> F- n- M"g off^tticn Elizabeth ;but faith (r) thatin the Ch^- pell Roy alltt bdthfo flood ,is now it doth,. [mcc the begin ning 0j^y«wh.li/abeth : i.e. for So. yeares roge> ther without interruption or alteration. In the begin- w^ other raigne, and ever (luce the beginning of her •Or,* /£>;f, arc two dirfcrent things : and this you could not but obf ITVC, but that you had a minde to quarrell with that excellent Lady; f or which I trow,your bre thren, who now fo much adore her memory, will conn you little thankcs in private. For whereas that moft excellent Lady followed therein the practice of vide E'Jk: her brother (i) King iV»v. 6. and kept her Chappell
nnpns?.str- up in that forme and order as was moft fit both for tne decencie of Gods publick fervice, and the magni- iiccnccof herownc royall State : wee are now told that this was done(r) Pour flatter Us CAtholiques^&les I'rinces ef rangers fon\y to flatter with the Catholiques, (this flattering with the Catboliqt(es,yo\\ very cunning ly left out in your tranflation)and with forraign Prin ces. Nay, if Dti Chcfric may be beleeved (or rather if you may bebeleeved,that do thus mifreport DH Chef-
ft ) I'M* wur. ne} all this was done,not cut of piety ,but policy: (f) Et p.ir my ccttc innovation Liiff.t plnficttrs ckofcs qttcffejtt- gct indtffcroitcs^cowe lesOrgitcs, lesOrruinents d'cfgltfe^ ijttoy (JHC plus pour police <]nc pour religion, as you cite the words. Andre da f/;<r///f,anhonefl:cr man than you, tc^s us no ^1C^ mattcr- ^or having named (f) the Or- g>w And Ornaments of the Church, f and not the Orna
ments
v.
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memsof the Queens Chappell oncly, which you cite Cap. 2.' hitnfor)he brings in M'-fidc, the names and dignities intheEcclcfiafticall Hierarchic, Arch-Bifliops, Bi- fliops^Canons of Churchcs,Curatcs,Pricfts and Dea cons, as alfo Lent, andabftinence from fleih on Fri- cayesand Saturdayes. Then addcs, what you hiivc made him fay of Organsaand the Church Ornaments, (as if hee fpokc of thofcalonc)that this was doneplw four police, (pie four religtMjnoK for policy thanllcli- gion. Which \vords,ifyouobfervc him \vcll,arc not to be referred to all that went before (for then Arch- Bifliops,Bi{hops,Pricft sand Deacons had been retai ned onely in point of policy) but to the keeping of Lent and other filling dayes. Wherein An Che foe hath fpoke no more than what is extant in the Stat.of5» El cap.1), where it is faid exprefly, that thcfir&ear/ng cfjlejh *>M meant onely pol/ticklyy for the incretfc off- fiermcn and mariner s,&c. Or if you think, ns I doe, that hee did notconfultthe Statute for it ; then out of doubt, he borrowed it from (°) Sanders tie fcbifntatc (»} tr.M. 5. i^dnglicAttO, where it is faid ternunis tertnin.intiins, \\\ this cafe of Zr/tf, and farting dayes, and i i this ondy, Non religioniSyfcdptiblici taut um commtdi cjtif.i hoc ip- ftim mMidiiri . Your other Frcnc h- man, thefrecdotie of whofc language you fo much commend, took his hint from the fame hand alfo : and you cix-buta Do- &or Slanders jo joyn wiih him and tlv.-m i:i any thing, which tends to the dishonour of fo brave a Lady. This faid , you whcclc about to fetch another blow at the Qjcenes altar, placing a crucipxe on the f;mc, (which itood there but a little while) and then de mand whether the Parijh Churches (*)\vcretff take pat- (x)?-^-??* tcrnc by this , who might Wtpejfcjft* picture in this
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Sc£l. 1 . kwde? no not Any of the Sufytts in tkeir priwte koufesl A thing impertinently brought in^but that you will be mcdling with you care not what; and having brought it in, will make it good fome way or other, but you care not how. For for the proofeof this, though not worth the proving, you cite the 45. Article of and for
(*) Po-J? the Regatlvifitation^vvi.. (x) Whether you know any that keep in their hottfss }any u»dcfacedlmagcsjAbles>fitfttrc$9 andcutcrTall the reft with an &c. Keadeon thcn,/>/- cfureS) fahrtingS) and other Monuments offained and fit ft mimics j filgr images , Jdoi\tryy *»d Jitp(rpitio»9 ami doc adore them. J'oyla Monfictir, not the fojjffing^ but i\\c adoring of thccracifxe, was enquired into.-and yet would fainc foolethepeople,as if it were not law- full to pofTclTc a crucifixe , or any picture in that Li/idejmuch lc(!e to have them in ourChurches.Wel-
(yjHaiehtmto ^rc tlie Frettcl-wcnyct, rvho(^} out ofthcjreedomeef
my Mftr_eift, their nation, will be furc ,pavlcr tout,4^^ consealncthing
tn*fb»,en,n-hii ci)lty,and you make your bed of it. Your next quota- wt ffthfffc- t jon tjiat Im^(s Of chin, It not eneh defctts, but alfo
dome tf thi nl- . . r . . ,« ' .' . • / • n L • u
timwltbt fat "fs,lor which you vouch the Homily againlt tncpena r*./fl-r^,cv. of idolatry, is "wtwdicium., nothingunto thepointin hand ; but that you arc a venturous gamcftcr,and love tohavcatalljwhatfocveritcoft you. Torifyou take thereafonofthc ifo/nily \v\\h you, (*) which is, that of the Godhead which is themofl excellent fart of Chrijl, us Image can ice wade : it will appearc that in the mea ning of the Homily , the images or pi«flure of a mortall man, may not be only called a^<y<//,buta //Valfojbc- caufeno pulurc can be nude of the foulet which is the moft excellent fart of the whole man. Either fpeakc more unto the purpofe, orelfe hold your peace.
The
'The Dolors a; Argument, (according as you Cap. plcafcro new mould his bookc ) is taken (you fay ) from the £#ee*cs ln\un£liQns^ more^m»atf/y,(* )yoti (a) confeiTe,than wasthe former fro the Queens Chappeli, but that it hath not any fohdity to reft upon. Why foe" Doc not the Qjeer.s Injunctions fay, (b) that if the Al- tar were cooke downe ( which they commanded not) <:»•*»*. '». the holy Table ftottldbc decently made andfct in the place when the ^ltarjlcod,and there commonly covered as thereto belonged? Ycs,b»tyoufay,(e)tbcrc folknveth fomcwhat which this falfe fivgred Gentleman left our, viz. and a* fiaS be appointed by the Fif tours: There upon you conclude, that placing and adorning of the Table was referred to the Cowmif toners^ who in their Orders, tcrrioof thcQjccne, appointed ,T^4r the TtL/c footitd (land where theflcps within the $ 'tires And Chsn- ecls fleod^ and flottld he covcredwith filke 9r buckram : and having faid fo, winde your home, (d) and MM the (d) Andtkmjf fatt»fthc Injurttfiott. In all this there is nnfilidityt9,nA youbtt^od as little truth. Thofcwords, andatflAli bee appointed nywrnte'*™, by the Vifttirs, relate not to the placing of the Table, />«*'» tndii<nv which was determined of in the Injunction 5 but to the covering of the fame,wherein the faid Injunctions had determined nothing. For marke the words; " The holy " Table in every Church flxtll be decently mdde^andfet i'n cc the place where the Altar JleoA-, What mwci and there " camwonly covcrtd,*s thereto belongethsntjsfiali bet ^appointedby the rifttors; & foiofttind,favif?g when the <c Ctmntunttn tfthe Sacrament is tt l>ec dtftrilutcd, &ct What thinke you now i what is referred unto the ri- ftors^ the placing of the Table,or the covering only { Not the placing furcly, as you may find in thelaft pe riod of the faid Injunction 3 viz. And After the C»mm*~
tie
I , won done, from time to time (not till the rifttwrs ftiould determine otherwife) the ftmt holy Table to bee placed where it flood before. Then for the Orders of the ycare 1561'. can you finde any thing in them that crofTet h the ln]ttnclio» ? Take the whole Order as it lieth, and then rviadcyoar Aw»,(«)l< ft is ordered dfi,l.ha.t thvftcps ''which be asyetatthisday remaining in my date- " drA.ll> Collegiate, or Parifl) church,, bee not ftirred or <c altered, but bee differed to continue. And if in any "C£4tfff//thcjfcps,bee tranfpofcd, that they bee not <c created againe, but that the fteps be decently paved, <c where the Communion 7Vi£/c (hall {land out of the r< times of receiving the Coinmunion5having thereon •e*a fairc linncn cloth, with foinc covering offilkc, e< buckram, or other fuch like for the clcane keeping <{of thcfaid cloth. No order here, for altering the Communion Table from that place and pofture in which it had bccne fitiutcd by the Qneenes Iri}nnfti. on : or that it fliould ftatul where the ftps within the £t*jres,or chancels (hod-, much lefle as you have made it in your fulfilled Copic of the Bifliops letter ; where thejlcpstt the ^AltAr former Ij flood : as if they would nothavchfhnd clofc along the wall, but neere unto
, the Tables o'f Codspre- :.)?-- ctpts impriKtedfor thcftidpurpofaw as i
p.A-4-*.
TMc: the Doctor laying all together concluded thus, t}iac being tlic Table was ( by the I tunnel ie») to bee placed where the Altar ftood ; above the fteps,(asby the Ordtrs-,) and under the Commandemcnts ( as by
the
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the Orders and /dverti foments ; ) therefore it was to Cap. 2,- ftand all along the wall. Againft this you have no thing to reply, but bold conjectures. ( u ; Why not af. (l*; pag.4i. well in the flue ofthejlcps, And ctidtrife to the wall? And ( » ) TV by not the Com/nAndtments ov(r the Commit. (0 FAo 43- nion board, that is, in fome higher f luce where they may be [ccne, Alt hough the Table jl and in the midfl of the Quire ? and why net ( » ) over the Communion Table, that is, ever the end of the Table ? I fee you are excel - lentat Tick tack, as you havcbeenealwayes, and will not let a why not .pafle, if it come in your way. Bur- this is, asr0w/Mtf (aidof ScnccAsKi\ct ^4 rent fine c/ilcc j and lumps together, as wee fay in the Engliflt Vioverb, like pebbles in a withe. Hut fo, it fecmes>you will not leave us. You have an other nnfwer to the $!±eencs In']unttion, •touchint' \\icfctting of the Table in thcpUfe where the ^4lur flood: which \sjhat it might ft And above thcjlcps with the cndJZaftn'ard, and the fide Northward^ and (l) yet obey the words of the In^incl'toa, ^ ^ 4 And bee in the f lace where the ^4\tAr flood. How fo c1 Bccaufe, fay you, youHnde in ^rifiotle that there is TVT&KSIW a common place, and •"'*©• '^ a proper place. Whence you inferre that the Iniuntfion tv.ts direclc d '10 her Mayflies {ub\etfSy not to her Mathematicians,i\\d therefore was more likely toufc the term; of a common and ordinary^ than a proper and (J-lathern.itic.i'J pLtcc. ^/fnd fo the place eft he A Icar, /';; this. Injundtio.i , // not all and in all dimensions, but fome fart end] of the room which the h\t\\- flUd. \ gather by your ftyL-, you arc- feme great body, feme Mtn(flcrt-toi\v: Licence ftiK-s you ; and doubt not but you have many fcrvants, al though not many Mathematicians^ attending on you. And let race put you a familiar cafe, this once. It U a
tiling ,
I.
(n) Horn.
fo;Vir&iL
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ufc not often. Snppofe you have aa old fide. er toitrt-cuf board (landing in your dining- room; and you command your fcrvants (being no Matbemar- f/'fw»,f,fuppofc that too)to take the faid oldjWf-^W, or court, cupboard way ^ and fet anothcrinthe place : If heefhould fct it end-wife, where the other flood fide-wife, would not your blood bee up, and yonr black ftaffe about his eares * Your difference out of i^4 rift otic bccwcene -mat Karat andron*'^®-' ferv«s for nothing here, more than to make a flicw, and to de ceive poore people that under fland it not. And yet in confidence of the caufe, you tell the Doctor, that (m) for the gre.it p.iines he hath taken, with his lint and lev til jn finding tut the place where the ^s( It ar flood; he might Live (pared it all agtinft the building of A new figeen-houfe. (n) NAturam ex fell AS furctlictt ; J fee there's a prophancflfe in your bones, which wilhicver out. Never did man fpeakc of facred things, with fo little reverence. T)reffers, and P/£**»-^w/«,andwhat- foever fcandalous conceit comes next to hand, we arc furc to he-arc of. It would doc better, as. I take it, if when you write next oi a facred argument, fome boy or other might cry out to you,as heretofore the Pricft did when hee \vasto facrifice, (f)froculhinc9fr9c»l ejlo propane. And fo much for your firft and fecond anfwers, to the QKxrnes Injunction.
Now for the 3. in which you have difpofed the flower of all your Army, your very lanizaries, you tell us with like confidence, that (P) ifbythcfc//*- jtmttions, the Table w^s to ftand where the Altar flood j then fliould the faid inanitions vary from the rites, which hut few daycs he fvrc had beenc prescribed by ftrliament, to bcc itfcd in the hookc of Common prayers.
How
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How prove you that > Marry fay you, the 'ijuiniflcr Appointed toreade the Communion js di retted to reade the Commandements, not at the end, but the North fide of the table jvhich implies the end to be placed towards the Eaft great window. 2 . It was pratfifed fo in King Ed war d s time, atis( not proved, bufyttatweured to bee proved tf^^//^^oublejj^tJFrjmcofurt. 3. Bccaufe it is very likely that Cox, Grindall , and Whitehcad ( being hdlfe the number of the perufers of the Liturgie which WM to bee confirmed™ the Parliament following} would ibfervc that ceremony in f lacing the Communion Table , which them f elves abroad and at home had formerly pra- tiifcd. Thcfcare the Arguments we muft rruft to, to confirme the point; butchefc will not doc it : for they arconcly fay-focs}and no proof cs at all ; and. might as juftly be denied by us5asventurotifly affirmed by you. But we will fcan themfcverally, beginning firftwith that comes laft, and fo proceeding afcendcndo, until! allbcanfwcred. Firftthen, Cox^ Grindall mdwbitc- head, made not up halfc the number of the Perufers of the Liturgie. The Authour whom you cite, (^) names us eight in all, farkcr, Bill^ May^ Cox, Grin- . eUU9 Whitehead^ Pilkington, and Sir Thomas Smith ; all joynt- Commiflioners in the bufincflc. So that unlelTe it may bee proved that three and three makes eight ; (and if it may bee proved, you are more cunning at Arithmetick, than mail the Ultatbematicksbefidc:) Grindall, and Cox, and Whiichcadmz&e not halfc the number. But let that paiTc for once, how fliall wee know that they did place the Communion Table end long, both at home and abroad? Tor this wee are di- reeled to \\vztrottblcs at Francofurt, pag. 23. and 24. in which there is not any word that reflects that way.
F AH
Seel. i. 'All we findc there, is the rccitall of a letter fent From
the conformable Englifi-mtn at Struburgb to the fibifntAticatt Congregation of the E»gltjh-me»{\\ Fran- ccjurt, about reducing them unto the booke of Com. mon- prayers eftabliflied in the latter end of King Edward 6. which letter was delivered to them by Mr. CrindallnnA Mr *C/j ambers find figncdby 16. of cheir hands, G riitdds being one \ but not one word of Ct>\* or Wbitebead. Or grant this too, that Grind.ill, Cox and Jr/yr/f/tf^pluced their Communion Table, end- longy\vhen they were abroad, and might befearcfull of offending thofe among ft whom they lived : yet would it-be no good cone! ulion, that therefore they appointed it fhould bee fo here, where they were fafe and out of danger ; and had the countenance of the Qiicene, who liked old orders very well, for their ia- coui agemcnt. You law this well enough, and therc- (r) ;/fc.7rj7fr/ fore durc not fay it for a ccrtaine, but (l) a likely mat-
G^indaihKc! tcr : an<^ li^lylloo^s>^ trowXcxcept icbc for you)are
p.47.' r.o dcinonft rations. This faul.your fccond Argument
about the praftifc in King /• dw.ir Jjtime, endeavoured
to bee proved from the troubles at francofurt, is al-
(f ) tri'id) ti.e ready nnfwered : Your poore (f )indi.ivours, and your
wtterofti t {]mpj.c hfxl'jJjQcds mriV wel i^o together. Nor is there n.
Ltueitndei-io:i- r , J . . o p . i
i/rf/j /•»«:.-. anything in all that relation, which. conccrnes this 1 ?•**• pra&ifc; more tlian a fummary of the Orders in King |
£ Awards Bookc drawne up by Knox and others of that crew, to bee fent to Calvin j by his determinate fentencc to ftand or fall : where it is onely (aid, that tkc Uttinifier is tofltnd .it tbe. North- fide of the Table. Which being a recitall onely of the Kubrick in the Common-prayer Booke, makes but one Argument with the firft 5 or helps, God wott, but very poorely
for
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forthcproofcpfthat. Butwhercyouknoclcitonthe
head, with faying that the placing of the Table end*
long, with one end towards the Eaft great window,
was the laft (ituation of that table in K'.Edwtrds time;
and call (*) Miles Htiggard for a witntflc: moft fure
Miles Huggurd tels you no fuch matter. («) For thus
faith (Jit tie s : "How long were they learning to fct An.i)jifp.fi.
" their TatU9to mimfter the faid Communion upon t
<c Firft they placed it x/0/r, where the high ^AltAr
cc ftood. Then muft it btc fct from the wall that one
c' might go bctwccne : the Min'fters being in contcn-
(( tion on whether part to turnc their faces, either to-
" wards the Wcft,thc North, or South. Some would
<e (land Weft-ward, fome North- ward, fome South-
ward. How fay you now. Doth Miles fay any tiling
of placing tbeTablc end-long. Noyoint. He faith ir was
removed from the wall where at firft it ftood, that
one might goe betweene the faid wall and it j and fo
I hope it might ftanding North and South : but that it
was placed cnd-Ung, not one word faith Miles.
Your out-works being taken in, come wee unto the Fort it fclfe,the Kubrick : where it is faid,//6<? M/niftcr funding At the north- fide of thcTablcfiall fay the Lords Pr.ijfr. The Doctor anlwered this before in his Coal from the Altar, viz. (x) Cc tb.it being in all quadr angular fr) Coal.p.ij " and quadrilateral figures there were foure iidcs, £f though commonly the narrower fides bee called by " the name of ends: the Minifter ftanding at t\\tnorth- "cndvf the Table, doth perfbrmethc Kubrick^ the <c Table ftanding in the place where the Altar ftood ; *' as well as ftanding at the North-fide^ in cafe it ftood f{ with one end towards the Eaft great window. And *' this hee did coaccivc the rather, bccaufe that in the
r 2 " Com-
Sc&. I.
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cc Common-Prayer Booke dotle into Latin, by the "command, and authorized by the great Scale of
xi i _ • . >-»
" tentrionalem partem^ Minijlcr fans,cralit orationem " dominicAm$\\w the Minifter (landing at the Norrh- <( part of the Table flnll fay the LordsPraycr, This is the fumme of his difcourfe : what reply make you? Firft cntringon a vaine difcourfe, touching the rap tures of thefoule, when it is throughly plunged in the ftudy of the CM at hem.it icks,m.\ therein mewing your notoriousignoran.ee, in mif- reporting the inventions of Euclide, <^>frcb.'MedeSj and Pythagoras t which wee will tell you of hereafter j and blundering moft lliamefully in the very principles of thofe noble flu- dies, in rcndring the Greek 7V7?i>yoxby your jqnilate. V//w,p.49. which no /£>;/fr0 but your felfc would have ever dor.eryoufall on this at laft,for the rrtaine of your anfwere. tyLoqitcndant eft cum I'ttlgo, when wfefyrake tctl-e people of;i fide, wee nntfi take a fide AS they take it j and thai the Veil or w.ts tco bUm? to dilute out efGeomf. try again ft cujlome,a;idth.it whb people which arc no Ge- emctricians : Cl) Pcorc fubjetis that are penally 'to obey L mvcs and Canon;, not heing-tobcc fyokcnto ascordingto the rules of Art. (») You tell us further,thauf <rj ^irt h.ith to itsfdfc its oivnc words ofart^nd thereupon pro. ducc an Epitaph en the Chanter 9fLangrcs> (thir.kc you it would not f'crvc for one that had beene Chant er of Lincoln alfo { ) And with another talc (b) ofEucltde, and cerraine Diagrams drawn in the fand by the Egyp tians ; adviicthc Dodorto remember, that the Ku brick w.is written for the nfc eft he Er.glifli^andnotofthc Cypfics. Of all this, there is little that requires an iwcr, confining all of flouriflies, and fencing tricks;
but.
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butnotoriehandfome ward to keep off a blow. Tot (peak man, was that Rttlrick written for the Laitie,or
or a learned Miniftery <i truft you are not come fo far, as tobcleevethat every Coblcr,Taylor,or other Ar- tizan,may take his turn, and miniftcr at the holy Altar, though you have fomahing here and there, which without very favourable Readers, maybe fo inter preted. If fo,as fo it was,thc Kubrick being only made for the direction of thcClergie,and amongft thofe the Miniftcrs of £/wW»Diocefe, (whom I prefuivte you neither willnor can condemn of fo much ignorance:) why doe you talk fo\d\yofpoorefnbjec~fs that arepc- natty te tbey lanes *»d Canons ja\d ignorant people that are not to be fpoken to by rules of Art ?
But this, it feemes, hath beene your recreation enely. For(c)w*/f* ^//ywithus/ft/gir, you tell the (Op'S-W- Doftor, that learned men in thcfe 'very particular cere monies, which we have in band, have appropriated tht^> word fides to the longhand the word end, to thcfiort length of an oblong fyuare. This, if well done, is worth the feeing rand how prove you this ? Gregory the 15. who had about him allthebejl ^Mathematicians in Europe, when he renewed ('or changed) the Calendar y doth call them fo in his Pontifical. Nonfequittir. This is the ftrangeft fequelc that I ever heard of. Korean itpof- fibly hold good, unleflfc it had been faid withall, tliat inthefetting out the fold Pontifical hechad conful- ted with thofe {JWatbematicians^n this very thing,by whofe advife and counfell he renewed the Calendar. And be that granted too: what then ? Why then fay you, in his Pontifcall he makes no more fides of an. ^ I- tar, than of a m*nytc wit, a right fide, and a left fide ;
F ^ calling
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ct&ing the Icjfer pjaares^ the Anterior dnd fofterior thereof. For proof ofthis,you cite him ih\\$:Etthurip- c*t Alt Are ftndij, addextrum &fwi{}rufft latut, p.. 144. And then againe,/#40/ir/0;7 frpofterieripartcAltarif, p. 1 42 ofy our Edition, ?VjffM5§2. being in mine of Peiri<y 1615. png. 232. 0:247. But clcerety this makes good what the Doctor faith. For the Mitcrtour part riiufl needs be that at which the Prief Hands when he doth officiate, which by their order,is\vith has face to the Eaft.-and the f0/rVr/V,that which is next the wall, \vhich/>.i83.youcall theback-fivfeofthe /P/^r.And then it muft needs be, that the two fidts thereof j as they arc called in the Pontifcall, muft be the North- end, and the South-end, which juftificth directly the Doctors words,when hcaffirmeth^Jthat thcXulrick, *< (according to the meaning and intentthercof ) is as " well fulfilled by the Miniftcr,ftandtngat the North e( end ofth'-.- Table, placed slong the wall, as at the " nort/jjidcoftlie ll'.me Handing towards the window. I hope you have no caufc to brag of this difcoveiy. That which comes aftcr,conccrnctl? the tranflarion of
CO ?*y>f. the book of Common prayers(«)by W*Ucr H addon JL$ you conjecture : which you except againft, as recom- . mended to a few Colledgcs,and not untothc Church of / vgldnd : nnd yet acknowledging in your margin, that it was rccomendcd unto all the Colledi?cs, which are the Seminaries, no doubt, of the Church of Eng- I And. 2. That it never was confirmed by Aft of Parlia- incnt,orbyK./-»wwhis Procl.iinath>n)hut take no no tice of the autliori/Jng thereof under the great Seale of QF.lizAbethfiQ leile effectual for that purpofc than
YOivig.ry. • a Proclamation. 3. That inthat!ranflation(f)the €4- Itndtris full of Saiots3 and fomc of them got intor<r^
(cartel^
^xjisL
fc drltt \ (had it been black fcarlet, or fomc other co- ^jao 2-
Iqur, it had been more confiderable) which howfoe- ver it may caft fomc fcandal on the Qiieen( whom you have 2 ftitch at) is nothing to the prejudice of that tranflation of the Kubrick. 4. That Dr Ff£//*£<r,when he was a young man, was fct by Its Vnclc, the Dttnt of Pauls ,to translate it again into Lat;ne>\\hkl\ makes you think that other verjion wot either exhaufted^r mijliked. Mifliked you cannot fay,rill you bring a rcafon j and if it was fo foone exhaufted,it is a good argument that it was well done, and univcrfally received . La/11 y, you fly to your old fhift,aifirming,that thofe times confi- dered,the Liturgie vwstranfated rather to comply with thcforraign, than to reigle and dire ft the Englifl) Chur ches. Which were it fo, ytt it makes nothing to this purpofc.For whether it bcparsjcptwtriwdisttie nor- thcrnepartjOr latw feftentrionalc, the northern fide,it muft be equally difpleailng to the/wrujgji Cbnrcbcs, (for you mean oncly thofc of the Church of RoMC)iti which the Triefl officiating is injoyned to (land in me dia AltarujN\t\\ his back towards the people ; being a different way from thatprefcribed the Mimfter in the Liturgie of the Church ot England. Ccrtes you doc but dnllie in all you fay ; and (hew your feifc a ferious trifler,butaforrydifputant.
Securi de faint e> de gloria certemui (g.) \ muft have (g;Taeir.di one pull more with you about th is .K#£mi j andfince vu>A5nc' J^ou give fo ftirean hint, about the Stattttcv/hich con- firnic-s it; The Parliament i.ofQii. Elizabeth began 3.\.Wtfimin$trtlAn.i%, //^.i^jS. and there continued till the 8. of tjMay next following : in which there paflcd the o/#, for uniformity of Common prtyer, and fervicc oftheChttrch, And admini f ration of the Sacra-
*"4
^.4« Together with this- ^ there paiTcdano-
ther, whtrcby the C^ieene might delegate whatpart flic pleafed, of her fupreme power in Ecclefafticif^ to fach CommifTioncrs as flic fliould appoint, according to the forme in that Aft laid downe. Prefentlyon the diflblving of the filid Parli;'tnent,the Qneenc fets out abookc of Injunctions, Aftvcttto the Clergic, as to vhz_j
£Ajtje fifth's Realms : in one of which (M Injunctions, • . i J j • j i r • j
Jt IS clccre and evident , that howlocvcr/0 n?<i»y and fuvdry piirtsoftbc Rcalme^ the Alt ATS of the Churches were removed, and Tables pi aced for the Admin if rat ion cfthc SACramwt : yet in fomc other places the Altars were not then removed, uf>on opinion of [inn ether order 19 ^ctakeniy her Majrjl/cs Vifnonrs. Tills put together, I would Fainc have leave ro askethis queftion. The Kubrick ordering that the {^liniJlerJkallJlandAt tht^> north-fde ofthcTable, (there where tables wcrej) and in fomaxy places of this Kingdome5the/4//d™/?4W/>£ as before : where fliould the Minirter fland to dil- chargc his duty '. Not in the middle of trie Altar, as was appointed intheLiturgicofK. Edit. <_x/», i54pi That was diilikcd and altered in the Scrvicc-bookc of If ihcyecrc 1551. confirmed this Parliament. Nor on » the north fwtj& you call ajfr/itv for thnt fuppofeth fuch .1 fituation,as was not proper to the Altar. Therefore it nuift be at ^northern cnd> or nat rower fide there of ,as before was Hiid 5 or elfe no Service to be done, no Sacraments adminiflred. The Parliament was fo farre from determining any thingtouchinc; the taking downc of Altars,that a precedent Aft i <J\lAr. cap. 3. for puniflimentoffuch as (I'.ould deface them, was by them continued. This was left folcly to the Qaecne, •the Metropolitan and ConimifTtons«, tobedonea or
not •
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hot dorte, as might fccmc mod convenient to them .• Cap. i, and yet the Parliament confirmed that Rnbrick for fanning at the north fide of the table. And for tlicgiteen, the BP yeclds it in his lcttcr,that (he and her Commifi- oners (or as your altered Copiehathit, jlxcandhcr Cenn(cll)rvcre content the /- ItarsJIwtM flan J Hill as be fore they did : the Inunction leaving it asa thing indif- fercnt,and efn* great moment, fo that the Sacrament bt duly and reverently tfifwff//frM.Ncithcr did the Com- wif toners in their Vifitarion, determine aoy thing for taking downe of Altars, where they found them ftan- ding,that we can meet with in their Orders of the yeer 1 5 6 1 . Nor need you ftick at the word Table, mentio ned in the Kubrick, confirmed in that Parliament, as if that did imply, or intimate the neccflary taking down of Altars. For you your felfe havetold us, that fa- crificc and Altars being relatives,nofooner C) was the (i)pag. rf, facrifce abelifled) but thcfe (call them wh.it jve will) Art n9 mtrt \^4ltars^ but tables offline And timber 5 in the Epiftlc to the Vicar. So then, that which was once an Alt ^r ', when there was zfacrtfcc, (the facrifce of the JV/4/^you mean) is now become a table onely, as your fclfc conceives it, whether of (lone or timber, that's no way materiall : and therefore (landing as they did when the Att was made, the Minifter could not pof- fibly officiate atthe jmrw-jftfcjUnlcftc you call the nar rower end, a fide, as the Doflor doth ; and as your fclfedoe,didyou underfland your fclfc, out of the Pwttfictff. Bolides, the meaning of the Ac^ is to be confidcrcdj not the words alone : which was to fixe the Minifter to fome ccrtainc pofture. For in K. Ed.
\*vW/firft Liturgie, ^n. 1549. the Miniftcr was ap. pointed, as before is faiJ, tofbuid inmcd* <^ilurlst with l
\ r ~ f
with his back towards the people. After, when as the King had commanded to take downc the Alt An and to fct up r^/«, then followed firfta difTerencea! bout the fituarion of thofe TMcs ; fomc being fitted like ///;*/•/, and fomc like ttbles^ according as we have it in the Arts and Monuments,/wf i.p ^.700. Here- upon followed that confufion which Miles Huff Ar4 fpcakcsof, amongft theMiniftcrsthemfelvcs :/ow<^ JtMdi'Hgtionh.warel, fomc font h.w.ird, undfomcwtft- ward. I'or remedy whereof, it was appointed in the fccond Liturgie, thathee, theMinifter, fliould have fomcccrtainc point, whereupon to fixe: your fclfc af. firming, (k) that this contention w*s determined by tke^> ilubrick,y/////>;/Wfj for the Nortli-fide of the TMe. So that the meaning of the Kubrick being onely this, toaffignc the Miniftcr fomc certain point whereon to fuftcnhisafpccl, inhisofliciating attheholyr^/c^.* that meaning is afwcll complycd withall, inftanding at the north or narrower fide thereof, placed alon« the wall; as (landing at the longer fide, with one end towards the Eaft great window. Nay I will goe a lit tle farther, and put it to confidcration, (and no more than fo) whether the Kubrick ordering that the Mi niftcr (hull ftand at the North fide of the Table, doth not imply the Tables (landing Altarwife, clofc along the wall , if within the Chancell ; and clofe to the partition, if within the Church. And I propofeiton thisground : Becaufe in cafe it had been meant in the compofureofthat Kubrick, that the holy Table fliould (land endlong, and farre off from the wall, or the partition, the fitted pofhirc for the Miniftcr had x-cneat the Jvft-cnd thereof, with his face down wards, towards the people. Ccrtainc 1 am, that in
that
that pofture hcwould be beft both fccn and heard of Cap. 2.
all the Congregation, (better by far than (landing at
either fidcthereof cither north or fouth) which feems
to be the thing nioft flood upon in the Bifliops letter
to the Vicar. But I propofc this oncly as a confidcra- *
tion5Iaffirmcitnot.
Next,weemuft follow you to the third Argument ofiheDo&or,drawncfrom the excrcifc of that fu- prcinc power//; Kcclefutficis^ which is inverted in the King. For granting (i) that the Kingmay comwtwda ^)Ha*-4*« greater matter of this nature, ikanthatthcT*blcjl;>9itld be pUced where the (^f I far feed : you oncly fume to doubt (nij whether his Majcfty hath any way decla- Cm)PaS' J*« red his pleafure , that hec would have it fo or not. Before, you asked tlie Doctor where the King com. tnwdcdK , as fr'not any thing but an cxprefle com- mandjhad the power 10 ftir you : when other men, as •wifeas you, havcthought the intimations of a Prince, in matters (") of indifferent vat arc, (as you acknow- (n)Ti*Piji*f ledge this to be) fufficient inducements for a fuhje^l y*'nz} to conforme thereto. Now you have changed your '» ftylc, and oncly ftand onthcdcnyall, that his inort ''•«" ' facred Majcfty hath not in this cafe declared bi<plc<t. (**"«>?•*• (itrc : you nicane, perhaps, not fo declared it, asthnt it pleafeth you to obey his pleafure. The Doctor faith (°) in briefe, that his facred Maiefic bath hereupon (°) Cl^> P< already declared hi f pleafure in t he cafe of S. Grcgories, And thereby given encouragement to the 'JWctrcpolitans, Bifiops,a.ndothcr Ordinaries ,to require th: like in aft the Churches commit ted to them. Your anfwer is asfliort, but not halfc fo fwcet,(r) that \\is Moft untrue, that his ^ pi"' j8' fJMaicfly hath declared in that Ail ,one word of his pie*. fttc hcreufw : i. e. (as you expound your fclfc) a.
gainf
(60)
gainfl the contents of tie Bffiops letter. Moft gravely Tpokcn. What had his M^jcfty to doe with the Bi- jhops letter t thathee fhouldfignifie his pleafure there upon, when as the merit of the fame was not called in queftion? ^quila non capitwufcat, you know the proverbe. The bufindtc then inqueftion, was the Handing of the Table in S. Cregorics Church^ which by the Ordinary there, was placed \^4ttar wife /and his moft facrcd Mujefty did thereupon declare hisple*. fure , proving And confirming the Ail of the faid Or- dinAry . You chulenge this as moft untrue ,znd prcfcnt- ly fall foule" on the poore man, for libelling AgAinf the Eijhop, malicious falfifying of his Authirs in every •fAgc : and finally ('yourowneturne'ferved)for com- ming to that height ofimfnd(ncy,zst>oncreosin ctelttm, to out-face heaven itfclfe , find wi [report the iujlicc of fo divine A <JMaiefty. Why fo '. Jkcaufe, fay you, if we A!) fir utt from this Declaration, (which the bold man hath -printed for an Act of Ccunfetl) the allegations, which Af,thc faid bold fellow, tallcth the relations of lath parties -3 and his (JMaiejlics inftplcafnrcfor the dif. folving of the appeale : the remainder will prove A full confirmation of the Ji i flops letter. If fo, then (i) fiangc lei'es caliimos, & ft i tide Thalia, libellos^ the Dodor tooke much pains to little purpofc. And that it is To, you arc percmpiorie, as in all things elfe, becaufe the Declaration tells us, " That the liberty given by the "Communion bookc, or Canon, for placing the " Communion Table in any Church or Chappcll " with moft convcniencie , is not to be undcrftood, " as if it were ever left to the difcrction of the Paridi, " much Icfle to the particular fancic of any humorous , but to the judgement of the Ordinaric, to
" whofc
'1?
" whofe place and function it doth properly belong Cap. " to give direction in that point, both for the thing it <c felf,and for the time when and how long,as he may <c finde caufe. Thefuarehis Matie» words indeed,w^- tis aure& verb* bratfcata , as you rightly call them : but they oppofc not any thing thatthe Doctor faith. You findc not in the Doctor, that the placing of the holy Table, or the interpreting of thole Canons and Kubricks which conccrnc it, was cither left to the^j discretion of the Tar./ ft tor to the Particular fancie of any humorous per (on in the fame : which is the oocly thing which that part of his Majcfties Declaration doth re late unto. That which the Doctor faith is this, that by the declaration of his Majcfties pleafure in thatprc- fcnt bufincflc, there was inccurageincnt given to the^> Metropolitans, Bijleps, rnd other Ordinaries to doe the like : /. e. to place the holy table in the fevcrall Chur ches committed to them, ask was placed in S.'6>/g0- ries by the Ordinary thereof. This I am fure his Ma jcfties words, which you applaud fo, doe not contra- didt. And on the other fide, that the whole Declara tion laid together, gives that incouragement to the Ordinaries, which the Doctor fpcakcsof, you might plaincly fee ; butth.it your Ordinary had no mindeto be incouraged to fogood a workc; which you deride and (corne throughout your book, as (hall be flicwnc more fully in the next Chapter. Meanc time, that all the world may fee, how wilfully you flint your eyes, and ftopyour cares, againft whatever is contained therein, which you like not of j I will once more fee downe the (aid Declaration, and after, gather thence fome few obfervations.either to cure you of your w;l- f ulncfle, or to fliame you for it,
A?
At White Hall the third day of
Trefeut, Lo:4rdB.of Cant*
LoiArdb.ofTork, Lo Treafurer. Lo: Trivie Seals. Lo:D.of Lennox.
mojl excellent Majeftic. Lo: Chamberlains. E.ofBridgwtter.
Lo:
M. Treafurer. M Comptroller.
(Jhamberla'm. M. Secretary Gookf. E. Marfiall. M.Secretary Wmdcbank,
day was debated before His
fifK-Q**Hc^y filing ^n ^oun^> tnc S^fqucftion and difference which >^& grew about the removing of the Communion table in S.Gregpries Church,necre the Cathcdrall Church of S. Paul] from the middle of the Chanccll to the upper end, and there placed Altar-wife, in fuch maner as it ftan. deth in the faid Cathedrall &t Mother Church, ( as alfo in all other Cathedrals, and in his Ma-
jellies
jcftics owneChappell ) and as is confonaot to Cap. 2. the pra&ife of approved Antiquity. Which re- movall and placing of it in that fort, was done by order from the Deane and Chapter of S. (p4«/j, who are Ordinaries thereof, as was a* vowcd before his Majefty by Dr. /(wg,and Dr. Mbntfort, two of the Prebends there. Yet fome few of the Parifhioners, being but five in num ber, did complaine of this Act by Appeale to the Court of Arches, pretending that the book of Common- prayer, and the 82. Canon, doe givepcrmiflion to place the Communion Ta ble, where it may ftand with mo ft fitnciTe and convenience. Now his Majefty having heard a particular relation made by the Conn fell of both parties, of all the cariage and proceedings in thiscaufe, waspleafedto declare his diflikc of all Innovation, and receding from ancient conftitutionsjgrounded upon juft and warran table reafon?, cfpecully in matters concerning Ecclefiafticall order and governmentjknovving how eafily men are drawne to affect novelties, and how (bone weakc judgements in fuch ca fes may be overtaken and abufed. And he was alfo pleafed to obferve, that if thofe few Pati- fliioners might have their wills, the difference
thereby
thereby from the forefaid Cathcd rail Mother Church, by which all other Churches depend ing thereon ought to be guided,would bee the more notorious, and give more fubje&of dif- courfe & difptitcs that might be fpared, by rea- fon of S.Gregpries (landing clofe to the wall thereof. And likewifc for fo much as concerns the liberty given by the (aid (Common bookcor Canon, for placing the Communion Table in any Church or Chappcil with moftconveni, encie : that liberty is not foto be undcrftood,as if it were ever left to the difcretion of the Pa- rifli, much lefle to the particular fancy of any humorous perfbn, but to the judgement of the Ordinary to whofe place and function it doth properly belong to give direction in that point, both for the thing ic felf}and for the time, when and how long, as hee may finde caufe. Upon which confederation his Maiefly declared him* felfe, That hee ^ ell approved and confirmed the jlft oftbefaid Ordinary, and alfo gave command,that if thofe few Parifhioners before mentioned, doe proceed in their faid Appeale,thenthc.t>f<w if the Arches ("who was then attending at the hearing of the cau(c)fhall confirme the (aid 0r- far of the af orefaid T)eane and Chaffer.
This
I
This is the Declaration of his facrcd Majeflie,faith« fully copied out of the Regiftcrs of his Counfcll- Table. Out of the which I docobferve j Firft, that the Ordinary did defatto, remove the Communion- Table from the middle of the Chancell, and place it i^dltar-rvife at the upper end. Secondly, that in the doiogof it, they did propofcunto themfclvcs, the patternc not alone of their ownc Cathedral! Mother Church, but of all other CathedJalls, and his Ma- jcfties Chappell j and therewithall the praftife of approved Antiquity. Thirdly, that His moft excel lent Majeily upon the hearing of the bufinefle, de claring his diflikc of all Innovations, did yet ap- prove the order of the Ordinary ; w hie hflicwcs, that nee conceived it not to bee any variance from the an cient conftitutionsof this Church. Tourthly, that all fArochUll Churches ought to bee guided by the pat ternc of the (JMotbcr Church, upon the which they doc depend. Fiftly, that not the people , but the Ordinary^ is to interpret as well the Kubrick as the Canon, touching the moft convenient placing of the holy Table. Sixthly, that it pcrtaineth to the place and function of the Ordinary^ to give directions in that kinde, both for the thing it lelfc ( bow itjluli ftand) and for thctime, when and how long, ( it /hall fo fland) ashecfindes occafion. And laft of all, that notwithftanding any thing that was objected from the faid Canon and Communion Booke , his Ma- jcfty did well approved^ Aft of the faid Ordinary ; and not approve it oncly, but cenfrtnc it too, giving command to the Dcanc of the Arches, that he mould finally and judicially confrme the fame, if theappcalc were followed by the faid Parifliioncrs. This is, I
G trow.
(r)Cod.I.r.
fOUft.Inftif lib.|,
not oncly
in relation to the pre'fent cafc,that of S.Greg cries then and there by him determined j but to all others alfo • of the fame nature. Hccthatfo well approved that Act of the Deancand Chapter of S. Pauls ; would qucftionlcfle approve the like in another Ordinarie. For being the cafe is one, the Chaf pells Roja/lRilhhc fame,thc (JMothcr Churches no leflc to be followed by • the Parochial; in one place than others : why fliould youthinkcthefcntence or decifion fliould bee diffe rent^ Or if you thinke this Declaration of his Maje- ftics pleafure is no incouragemcnt to other Ordinaries, to bring the PariuV Churches to conformc with the Cathedrals in this particular; becaufe his Majefty doth not fay, in termcs exprefle, thathee would alfo very well approve the like in all other Ordinaries .• you doc notorioufly bewray, either your ignorance or wilful- nefie, or fomc worfc condition. For know you not thatMaxime in the Cm//lawcs, (') Sententi* Princi- pis\t(s dttbium declarant, \tisfacit quoad ' o runes ? or that theCivill Lawyers hy,RcxfolM4 ]tidicat de can fa a jure HO* defnita ? If not, confult that learned cafe of the ffft-tMti, ftatcd by the Lord Chancellour Fgtrtin, pag. 1 07. whom you have elfcwherc cited, and muft needs have f eenc. The Declaration of the Kings plea.- • fure, what ever you thinke of it, is no trivial! mat ter : and that not onely in fuch things as hec fliall command, but fuch as hcallowcth of, confrmcs, and fcts his approbation on them . The booke of ( f ) Inffj. tutfs^t you went no further, could tell you fomcwhat to this purpofc : Where it is faid, Cconftrue it as you lift your fclfygHodttmquc Itnperator per epiftolam con-
effcconfat:
and
and is to {land for good in whatfoevcrcafe and bufi- ncfTc of the fame naturcjiinkfTc it be in pcrfonal mat ters of premium ^*/><rw4,andfuchlike. Regall decifi- ons in this kind,arc like the ruled cafes(& they cal the) in the Ctmmen law ; or trie Refyonfii frudentum^ the judgements and determinations of the reverend Sages in that profeflion, extant in their Reports, Terme- bookcs, and Commentaries : Firft made in reference to the caufc which was then before them, but of au thority (at the leaft directive J in all other bufineffe of the like conditional! over- ruled in open Court by c- quall both authority and judgement. And it is a good rule in fuch bouts as this, (l ) DC funiltbtu adfimilia ///- (t) poQ. dictum & Argumentfyo recipiuntur. Laft of all3for the Canon lawcs,j(that you may fee how much all Lawcs condcrnne you for your obftir.ate folly ) what is the whole body of the Dccretals(one of the grcateft parts thereof) but a collection of particular Refer ipts and decifions made by fcverall Popes, upon particular and emergent cafes '. which being fomade^arc ft ill remai- ning on record as judgemcnts,fcntencts, or decifion, for all and every cafes of the like condition ; I'olentes igitur ut hac tantum cowpilAtionc omne suttnturjn \ndi- cih& infcholis, as in the Proemctothe workc. This is, I truft, enough to fliicld the Dodtor from your fu ry, for faying onely that by this Declaration of his MA- jcfies pleafttre, in that one particular, the Mctropoli- tarts, B/fiops, ,ind ether Ordinaries had no fwafl incoit- ragcrncnt^ to reduce private Parifh Churches to an uniformity with their Cathedrall.Againft the which, as you have not one word to fay, but your own? :pfc dixit, that it is untrue •, an^yourownc wcumf*tuiy that nothing (hall perfwade you to the contrary, as
G 2 long
(W
5c&, i . J°n8 as Mr. Alderman of Cr : and the good people of trie DioccfTc arc not pleated withall : To might we well have faved this labour, and left you to the fingu- Jarity ofyour fullcn.humour, And fo I leave you for this time; only, I cannot choofebut marvcll why you fhould lay fuch impudency to the Deftors charge,
fr) p.ig. j *. for („) mjjrcfort'wg the Ittftjce of fo divine a Mnjefic ; which lie reports in the fame words he found it copi ed forth unto him; or calling himiW*//V//0»i»,for frtn- ting it for an \_sl(l of CoiHiftuJbcing a Declaration of his Majefties pleafurc at the Council board^ and which you call an J/ltt your felfe,in the fclfc-fame page: or finally correcting him, for faying the Relation of loth parties,nQt the Allegation ; when. as the word Relation onely is in his copie of the Aft. nad he dealt fo with you, you would have called him haltc a dozen times, Animal pugnaci/imtimt Gander, Common Barrett cr*3 and I know not what: you being in this cafe like the Cock, that is well fed with Garlick before the light, who feckcs to over-matcli his Adverfary, rather with ranknefle of breath, than ftrcngth of body .
*.'*'„ &* &. »*. ,tJ:- ^ »^- Jl;« Jtf. &» »<"• »*V. A, & • .'i'. »•*• ."V ***> »•<• iff* **,- 1'\ tjf-^V1,- J*. »*• *<r* •!%• »fr »!ff*
CHAP. III.
Of the Epifcopall authority in points
mony j the piety of the times, and good worke in hand j and ot the Evidence produ ced from the Acts and Monuments.
T/*Mim(ler <$LvM\*rnAttd*)met in the frefent bufmefft. Dtngerws grounds Uidbj the Minifterof Linc:/or over-throw*
ing
ing the Epifcopall atut Regall ptver. Ht mifreforts the meaning 9] the (?**»«*// «/Ntce,f»/*f«jfr hu private fpleen.The Minifter of Line: tverthrtvrs hi* 9»»e former grounds by newfuperftrM- {lures iprotefttth in A thing Agair.ft his confcience. Chavgtth the 2) eft or with fuck things M hefindet not in htm. Denjtth that any tne thinf may have two kyorvne And prof er Mimes ; therefore that the Communion table may Httbe called AH Altar Alfo\*ndfor the proof thereof dot hfA/jtfie his owns authorities. The D oflcrfa/fi- JttJ^fratHe, abont tht Canons ofthe jeare 1571. The Minister teholdtng tofoms Arch-dcacons/»r his obftrvations. Their fur- tailing of the Bifhopsf sivcrjin moving or removing the Comrntl- Dion taMe, to advance their otvne The piety of the timc<}<m^ ;^* good workci'»4<«w^, declared and defended agatHJi the impiotu «>nlfrofani deripon of the Minifter of Line. The teflimontes of Fryth, aad Lambert , taken out of the Afts and Monuments, cleared from the cavils of the Minifter of Line. The Minifter of LinC: cuts off the words 0/Lambcrt, Fox, Philpot, and Sifiop Latimcr» andfalfifitth moft foultlj the Acls and Monuments : Corrects the Statute and the JVrtt about the Sacrament of the Altar: f leads fiortly for the Btfljop 0/Lincol;ic and Deane of cftminfter,!* the matter »/Oy ftcr-boards and Drcflen ; and t imfertinentlyfoule OH the Bifiop of Norwich,
Cfyt qutscurricub pufoeremOlympiciimctflegijfijtt- Horat.Caim. *"i>4t)d'c. ( For ftill I follow him up and down in his i-kkt. owne fancies.) The Poet tels us of fomc men that had a great delight in the olympick exercifcs, in hope to \vinnc the prizes which were there propofcd. Our Some-body ,jome Uttinijter^fsmt I know not who,hach an itch that wayja great defirc to get the prize ; and I cannot blame him. Terr Arum Dominos tvthit ad decs ? What ? to be hoyfted up by the common people,as a man more than mortall, one fo like the gods, that it is hard to fay whether he or lupitcr be the better man ? Who would not venture a fall, to find fuch applanfc?
G 3 clpccially
efpccially confidering with what cafe it maybe at tained. And ccrtaincly -in two things hce is very like them. For he doth oncly raifc a diift, cotligcre pnl- vertMj as the Poet hath it, and labour what here can cvitArctnctaM, to flioot as wide as it is pofliblc from the mark he aimes at : not caring (fo heclooke like fome furious driver, and make his chariot wheeles runne onsand rattle,) how it fuccecds with him in the maineofthc Argument. In the laft Chapter, ashee . tells us, he hath («) reduced into a body nit the Reg.ill-^ ' and in this, all the Ecclcfiiipic<ill\>o\vcr, which t/jcpwrc fellow, \vhofoever hee was that wrote the Coal from thc^dltar, conceived to be any wjyppofitc^o his Lord- fhips letter. Tn doing which, and patching up a bro ken Cento, Q\\\. of particular and (by him) difmembred paflagcs, collected here and there tumultuoufly from the Doctors bookc j he raifcth fiich a filthy duft,tbat one can hardly fee what it is he aimes at j and yet he may come off the better, if he niiffc his mark. How ever, having undertaken him,we muft doe our bcft,to blow away this duft, and clecrc the paffiigc,that every one may fee his courfes , and what poorc fliifes he ufeth to attainc the prize hec fo much longeth for. The Doctor faith in fcvcrall places of his booke, " That the Ordinary ttf bis o\v»e Authority, way, if hcc " plcafc, A]>yohit the Communion-t Able t»fl And Alt*?- " n>i(k^> : that his mbftfacrcdMa]cftyhath^/t;M/ii« " courage-went to the Bifoops and other Or&inaries fo to "dOjin hisdcdfion of the cafe about S.Grcgories: and therefore as the cafe then flood with the Doctors " friend, being it ws ex fitted of his Ordinary , it did <( require more of his obedience^, thin Ins curioftty. "•Othcrvvifc fliould allmenbefoaflfccledastodemur
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" on the commands ofthcir Supcriours, in matters of Cap, *i " cxtcriour order and publick government, till they " are fatisficd in the grounds and reafons of the Did " commands ; or fhould they flic off from their duty, "at fight of every new device that was offered to "them; there would foone be a fpeedy diflblution " both of Church and State^ And to that purpofc "there was ufed a fpeech from Tacitm, (b) viz. <"•>) H«ft.Li. t€ Si ubi \ttbeantttr qutrere ftngults 1: ceat •, per tunic obft- " quioitnpetium et-iam intercidit* So far re you cicc him rightly, (which I wonder at,being a fault you arc not guilty of too often) favc that you left out that of every new device, t\\ztt mentioned : as loath to be con ceived (*) a Divine of invention j affecting as you do, ^cj ttheregs i+ tobe accounted one of;W^weW.What you rcplie to dttduit butt this we ftall forthwith fee: that which concernes the S^J*?1;*
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mcouragewent given to the Bijhops and ether Ordinaries > by his facred Ma"c , firft being wiped off in this fhort farenthejis,(*) the contrary whereof you haveftewcd in (<Qpag.vif the precedent Chapter. Short work,bclecve me. You have as ready a way to confute an Adverfarie, as hce that undertooke to confute the CAY Ahull, with thefe two words, (JMentiri* Bellarmine. But finceyou doc appcaletoyourperformaece in that Chaptcr,\ve mnft obfcrvcyour method alfo,(being you arc fogood an Jlrtif ) and tell you with more truth, though not more words 5 that / ktvejhewfte the twtrary in thz^ former Chapter , to that which you affirme in this fo bravely.
Your anfwer to the next is rnorc5but not more ma- teriall. The Doftor told you that the Or din fine of his cwne authority, might (if he pleafed) anoint the Com- tablets bcfet up in the place where the Jltar G 4 flood
flood , and there placed Altar-wife as in the Mother Churches, and the Chappels Royall. And he had good authority, hcc thought, for what he fuid ; His iacrcd Majefty having fo declared it in the dccifion of the cafe about S. Gregories : affirming then and " there, that it properly bclongtth to the place and " funclion of the Ordinary , to give direction in that " point, both for the thing it felfe, and for the time, "when and how long,as he may findecaufe, 0 mentis Aurc* verb: ir act eat a, (c) His Majcittcs Rifcript ft to bewrittenin plates of gold, inhi<, and ibis onely, con cerning the joint cfcontroverfit_j. However you ap plaud not His Majefties approbation and confirmation of what was done by the Deanc and Chapter of S. Pauls , in the cafe there handled; as crofling ex diametrc- yourowne rcfolutions : yet this particular claufc you have feleclcd for an Ettge tuum, a paffagc not to be cxtold fufficiently. But not being conftant to your fclfe, we muft expedtyou fliould confute it, and locate your words. Nor doe you meane our cxpe- Nation fliould be frudrate. For entringon a vainc difcourfc of Epifcopall government, which is to be, you fry, by (f) Canon Law, not by Canon foot : you fall to telling us, that they neither bsivc, nor challenge ^ny exorbitant fewer over their Clergie, Lawcs, Canons, and \^icls of Parliament (with a ^Vs*^*?, (cfyecially ever Atts of Parliaments ;) that they muft govern *>ith a power of moderation, not of domination^ \\Mit fitting in their Ch.iircs they are to \udge according tt the Ca~ no»sy and not of the Canons : ($) that whdtfuver power the Prelates had in formcrtimes of making Cawns, and in flt Cling penalties mtlithmc, it was all taken from jhcmby K. tfertry 8.. and therefore if the Ordinaries
noiv £ tmm And where t here it n* C won in force y it layts A burden And grievance upon the fitb\e{fs, frcm which they may tppcale AS A thing un]tifl : ^ppeafcs being in the Canon Law, ?& Ancient in the Chart h of God as the Canons tbcrr.Jelvcs ; and pur pofcly allowed of,bccaufe poffibly a Prelate may propcfc unto himfelffomc pecvifi, wrangling &nd vea^ijlt humour of his cwnc, infieadtfa Canon. Hereupon you conclude, (whatever hath becne faid ofhis facrcd t^fajeftie in thofc his mentis aurc* verba bracleata) that it is untrue, (^} that the Or- (h; p dinary hath any authority ofhis o\vn> (as he is Ordinary) 10 place the holy table in one or other filiation. And therefore for your part, (Let the King ufc his flea- fitrein approving and confoming what he hath a mind to, ) 0) iheLidtrgie cwt tutting <u it is,} o* had far leivcr it he that jbottld obey (without offence to any man in place be itfyekeri) than he that fiottld peremptorily command in this kindeef Alteration. And as for the obcdicnccof the people, the Ordinary may indeed expect it, (k) If bee command according to the Larees And Canons con. firmed, for otherwife he is in his exccntricks, and moves xtt *s he ought t» doe : Nay, ifthe Ordinary fliould command where there is (lj no law or former Canon in ftrce, bcingitisathiog «^/«/?thnt he fliould fo doe, it is by conftquenc e, of a nature, w hereunto obedience is nt way due. (m) Not that you would advije any Clergie. man of what degree fozvcr, to oppoft his Ordinary, either in this sr any other particular effo low a naturt_j ; No, God forbid ; you have more wit I trow than fo j but that you have a mindc to lay fuch grounds, as any factious fpiritmay fly out upon, without more advi- fmg. I:or tell mce, to what purpofe clfc is all this dif- courfc < His Majcfty bcii.g the bcft Interpreter ofthc
, hath left the matter abfolutely unto the Ordi. ttArky as properly belonging to his flace Andfttnftion : yet if the Ordlnarie doc command it, hee is in his ec- centricks , commands a thing for which there is no law or CAttont judgcth not by the Canons, but of the Canons, govcrncs his Clergieasa Gcnerall doth his Army in a drunken mutinie ; rather affcds a domin.i* tion than a modtrAtitn , and finally propofcth fomc- \vhat out of a peevifli,wranglingsand wafpifli humour, to which obedience is not duc^nonfime fife f res, "What (n) litre i: m is this (n ) up and dovvnc thinkc you, /. C. or T. C. as
*L'ul'*n£dtirn y°u phrak ll ?•'&• 7° * This is an excellent kindc f-ro'. ' of Argumentation , to weaken not alone the Ef>if.
copdll, but the RcgaO, power : as if the one had no au thority to interpret Kubricks ; nor the other to pro ceed according unto that interpretation. Hec that can gather any better conclufion from fuch factious pre- mifes, muft have fomc Lincoln Logick, which never grew in either Univerfity. I will not tell you here, that I conjecture you doe aime at fomc particular, in this extravagant difcourfe j as if all matters of the Church were carried in a higher ftrainc than they ought to be ; bccaufc in a more orderly and canoni cal! way than your qucafie ftomack can admit of: but I muft tell you needs, that you have falfified moft a. bominably the Cwncetttf Nice. You tell us,it is pofli- blc,a Prelate may propofe unto himfelf fomefeevijh, wrArtgling^Mid wtftifl) humour of his ownc in (lead of a C:\non ; from which there lyeth an Appctlt by the Canon Law : And for that purpofe cite thofc words of the Councell of Nice, cap.1). Mwyo4«^/«i ?AO;<W*, t> w^ Tw«^ au^k. But as you doc tranflate them falfely9 for your private aime 3 fo you have made the Councell
fay
fay what it never meant. ThcCouncell fpcaks not Catx i2 there of any poflibility 3 that Bifhops fhould propofc unto themf elves their ovfncpecv/Jhtw*Jj>iJh,wr4ttgli*g humours, in ftcad of Canons. All that it faith is^this, E£«7«£te»A&c. (°) " It is required that no man fhotild fo) Condi/ " bee excommunicate by his Bifhop , cither out of " weakncflc-jftomac*;, or any other kind of harflinefTe^ <f & that there fhould be Synods twice in every yeer, *( for the particular examination of •fuchm-lM^»-«f °-»" you this a propo^H *f tl-\11 ovvn waipifli, wrangling cnd^ccviih humours, in (lead ot Canons? But that you have a Licence to fay what you lift, you duift ne ver have faid it.
And yet, I thinke wee may forgive you both this and that extravagant difcourfe which before wee fpakc of. Tor you have made us very faire amends, Amends ftr Ladies faith the play, in that which fol- lowcthjand foconfuteyour felfcto favc rnea labour. You tell us out of BP Si/fen, (?) That whatfiever by the Liivts ofGed^ the Prince^ or the Church, is enct conft it it- led is no longer tff he mooted upon, hut absolutely obey, ed ly all tnferieurs. And what Cod^ the King* andthc^f Church have dire fled, is not to be put to deliberation, but +9 execution. Your Author, a moft reverend and lear ned man, fpcaks plainer than you doe, who doe affeft moft miferably in all your fty le too much of the Bar- riftcr. 0)" What is decreed (faith hec) by Supcri- fa) PtrFet.it- <cours, muft not by inferiours be debated whether it r«w;wo/c/;. <cfliall take place or no; but be rather obeyed with "rcadincffc. So that in all cafes determined by the "lawcsof God, the Church, and the Prince, conful- "tationisbothfuperfluous andpreiumptuous j cxe- "cution is onely nccdfull. And now I would af-
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fume, did I notthinkc it would offend you, but by the King it is determined, that it doth properly belong ante the Ordinarie to place the Communion Table where hcethinkcs moft fitting, in reference both to place and time, £r£0,what ever you have faid in your laftdifcourfc/iscithcrtoa very factious and unduti- full purpofe, or to none at all. In the next place, you grant it to be true as thcDoftor faith, (r) That in aS J*'ibts that dec arife , hew to understand, doe^ and execute the things contained m >u *.;»«..£/>, a deciding power is left to the Bijbop of the Dioceffe : But then yuu fay, (f) It is & true, that the Dotftr dafycth out with an <jrc. the mtineprovifo of this power -,fi that the fame be not contrary to any thtng in this botke. What then { There fore it is untrue, that tt^e Ordinarie hath an authority ef his owne (ts he is Or dinar ie)to place the holy Table in one tr other fitnation, wore than what is given him ( in cafe if. doubt and divcrftty ondf) by the fire faid Preface. This is juft hide and feeke, or the blind-mans buffe. The Preface gives the Ordinarie a diciding power, in cafe of 'doubt ing or diverfitie^nd in that cafeoncly :yct when there is a doubt, and difference about the pla cing ofthe74^/tf, cither he hath no fuch deciding po wer, orclfc may not ufc it. The Ordinarie hath no authority, but what is given him by the Preface, and the Prefacegivcs him an authority which he may not CO Horat.de excrcif c. Thcfe arc like fick mens dreames, (c) Cttjttf, i-clut ,ngri fwmia, vanx Fingiintnrfyccics, things of ill coherence. Ami if you hope to favc yourfclfe by the provifo,/0 that thcfimc be not contrary to any thing in this £*0£,youare wide as ever: that contrariety which you dreame of, being taken away, by that decifion of his Majefty, which you have honoured with yourEu-
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logic oftncrtttf Mre*. Nay you goe further at the Iaft, Cap. 3 , and cut your ownc throat with your ownc weapon : (u) Affirming that in a cafe ef doubt, diversity, And am- («) pag. rtfo. biguity,the Bifiop^ or Ordinary, is punctually tobe obeyed by thofe of his jurisdiction : excepting oncly when his faidcff maud dot b exprejly oppofi AN Article of the belief e, one of the ten Commandcments, or the general! Jl ate and fubfiftcncc of Gods Catholikc Church, \ thinkc you are not of opinion, that placing the Communion Table 4ltar-wifa isexprcfly oppofueto cither of the three here mentioned : being, as you profeflc clfe- where, a (x) circamftance indifferent . Nor fhall you challenge (n) m Dij!)»p me for leaving out your preamble to this rcfolution,//* '»•'"»£ «'•« he command according to the laws andCanons confirmed: ^'^tl^r unlelTcyoucan makegood,which I think you cannot, this circum- that any thing commanded according to the lawcs Pmce>?-*' and Canons confirmed, may oppofe exprefly An Arti cle of the faith jnt of the ten Cowmandcments, or the gc- nertU'ftltflftence of Gods Church. lkfidcs,that in your following words you fpeakc more generally, without relation unto larve-s and Canons confirmed^) that in all (y; \vy(). other ctfeswhatfoc-ver that are dubious , the infer tour is bound to belee've his Super ieur. This yoint, you fay, well poifedjwouldclear a world of errors both in the Church & Common-wealth '3{>i\t was here handled either very im pertinently, or againft your fclfe. Tor your Protejltt\\^x (x)you have not heard of any L* Bifrop'thst hath exacted COPJ£-** of his niece/ft^ t he placing of the holy table, as this in.m would have it'i(*)crcdat lud&m Appen4,Non ego. I <:m too (\) llorat. well Jicquainted with you,totakc upany thing on cre dit. For harkcyou in your care,\vhat meane the blea ting of thofe fhecp ^ (b) this fellow Cs j umbling againft Ck)?3"-^. tic King and the EifltfpjAnquaw Rcge cum Rcgulo^ like
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•* Wren wanted on the feathers of an Eagle { You are not fuch a Sphinx, I hope, but you may mcctan Ocdi- f & *t onetime or other. And pruy you tell me ere we part,whcthcr did you borrow that trim conceitout of
&***»' fr«*(yrp»i**>™ le™ y<™it to H.B. before nandjtolry how it rclifhed? An excellent piece it was beleeve me, and fuch a one rs doth dcfcrvc the guer don in rirgtls Eclogue, (<*) Et vital* tit dignn*,& ille. Having thus battered downethe Epifcapall power, for placing ordifplacing the Comumon Table,which yet ftandsfaft enough for all your affaults 5 you fally next upon the Vic AT, Monnfienrthc halfe Vicar ^ («)ag youcallhim. Angry youarcat fomewhat, but you dare not fay what. Where doth thcDodor fay(as you charge upon him)that Mfunftcnr thebalfe Vicar flwild kwcyowtr toremo<ve(ofhiso}vne hc<td)thc Ctmmunitn Tablc-jr tocxllthat an Altar, tv/;/V/;/;/>Rubrick calls 4 Table,<iw^wtf othcrwife-Jo be inabledtodt this by the Ca nons , and to Itc liidgc, yea 4 more competent ludgt oftbt convtnicncy of the funding thereof .than f£;Ordinarie, and his Surrogates 'ynot permitting the Church-officers to floe what they are in}oynedby their immediate Sttperi- curs ? Thefe Myrmidons, I afliiicyou, fwarmcd out of ydurftrong fancy only, and are not extant any where inthe Doftors bookes nor by you hud led up in your broken Cento. You onely charge the Doftor there, ( f) for faying that the Vicar mi»ht dcftre to havf an ///. /xr, i.e. to have the Communion 7 able placed A 1 tar- wife, at the upper end of his Quire. And why not fo^Dcfirc to have a thing done thus, and thus, implies not any grant of power to doc it. To have a power of ones ownc head to remove \\\c Table, and to deflre to have the TabJcplaced ^Itar-rvifc 5 are asfarrc afundcr,as
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you arc from obtainirgthe office of on ArchB. al- Cap* 3. though perhaps you may defre it. Nor doth the Do- flor lay in termini* , that it \vas Uivf till for the Vicar i* gall that an Altar, which the Kubrick calls no otherrvife than A Table ; but that (s)the Epifoler (vvhofocver he <s) Cott> was) had no ret fin to -fuflsect, that any propitiatory fi eri fee IV-M aimed at by the Vic. of Gr. although he ttfed the name ofk\mforthe holy T/ible.Or had the Doctor faid fo in terms cxprcflejhad it bcene either (^nevun* crimcnjcx Ante hoc tcmpiu inaudititm? May we be fure, upon your word, thatbecaufe(') names were frjl tn- 0;pag.7<- vented to divide and fiver one particular-thing freman- ctheriCrt that a thing cannot have two proper anddijlwft names; therefore the holy Table may not be called an Altar f Is it not told us in the letter, (k) that in the Old Tcfamtnt one tndthc (ante thing is termed an Altar,/W a Table : an Altar in refyett oj what is t here offered unto G*di And a Table, inreftctt ofrvhatis there(ov thence) farticiftted By men. And have not you your fclfinfor- mcd us out of Cardinall Pcren, that it is ever called 4 Table when it points to the Communion, and an Altar when it points unto f/^facrifice,/>4£.io2. which alfois affirmed and granted by our learned i^fndrnvs. I fee your memory is not altogether fo good as your inven tion. Scvcrall rejects may give the fame- one thing, two namcsjas fcvcrall f<i/w ities to the fclfc-fame pcr- fon. Thcreisa licence to yourbookc, fubfigncd lohn Lincoln Dcant tfWcJlminftr. Iltfiop of Lincoln, and Deane of Weftminflcr, arc two diftincl and proper names 5 and yet no doubt you would bcc forry they fhould not both belong to the fame one nun. Your other rcufon, thatitfliouldnotC^bc-ccallc-dnn Altar ^ bccaufc the Church in her Liturgie and Canons doc cad
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>but that an or- Binary bud- fleet may be fit to hold it. The Liturgic ant{ canMs both, doe call the Eaftcrnc part of the Church by thc namc ofc/At^//(").The Table in C<5- munion time fliall (land in the body of the Church ,or /> f/;? cbdnccll. So the LitixtQK*JucT*&lcJb*ttle*U» cedin fogeadfort within the Church or Chanccll. So thc Canon(").Whatthcnc' Thercfore,accordins to your
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rcafon, the Church m her Liturgie and Canons cal. ling the fame a Chancdl only; why do you fuffcr the Epiftolcr fo ofcen, to call it a j^/W, and not check him for it '. Or rather why doc you lo call it, having thc C*;wi and. the RuLrick bothagainft you^ That which youbring us from jijrb.tt w^ (?) that where rvec • IWCA LAW And Can on te ilircti us^ how to c\tllt thingywc ought not to hunt sifter rca fens and conceits {ogive it Aft. other appellation , bcfides,thatit is nothing to the pur- pofe, is by you falfirlai of purpofe, to helpe at need. Bar bat us hath not in your margin any one fyllable, tjiat J°°^'s t'int wa>' : ( ybicitnqM tt.W<mM legcm vel CanoHtw^non dcbcnitis allcgarc rationcm^nifi Icge vel Ca- Konedeficicnte . Wliat hath this rule to doe with names and appellations, that fpcakes of neither ? Youfiiould firil Icarnc toconftruea piece of Latine, before you take upon you to bee a difputant. There is another pretty fetch concerning ^Itars, which I will put off to the fixt 'Chapter, where we fliall lookconthatdif- coarfe,which you have given us^picccby piccc,ofthe name of L*^/f 4f, though forry you fliould force me to •waftc my time in fuch a needleffe ^^^* as this is.
What fbllowes next in your Did Cento ? Bccaufc
. (q) for any thing the Canon tells us, the Vicar waste
have A greater hand in ordering the f aid table, than the
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Bifiops iwmedtiteefficersthe Church-wardens were, or Cap. 3. ought to have : and that he did not any thing againflthe Canon, in canfing the table to be difjtopd of to a. more con- venient place than before it flood in. Where findc you .this? Not in the Doctor certainly, if you maikehim well. The Doctor fpeaks not any thing of the Canons generally, (as you make him fpeak) but of that one particular Canon , which was alledged in the letter. The Vicar,asbcfore you charged it, dtfircd to kwc an t^fltar, i. c. the Communion-table placed (^dltar-wijt at thenpper endofhU gitire. The Bifhop rcafoneth a. gainft this out of the Canons, ^Anno 1571 .that not the Vicar, but the Church- wardens were to provide (ntc». ///, faith your new Edition) for the Communion, and that not an Altar, but afairejoyncd Table. The Do ctor hereunto rcplyes, OyThat for any thing thofe (r)cttifnm t, " Canons (and not the Canon) tell us, thcMiniftcr fas ***"> p'18' " in this cafe the Vicar) was to have a greater hand in (< ordering the faid table: being fo provided, than the " Church, wardens were or ought to have. And that "the Vicar did not any thing in this cafe againft the " Canon: (i.e.the Canon thenpropofed) for he provi- " dcd not the table, butonely caufed the table which " he found provided,to be difpofed of to a more con- '"venient place than before it flood in. Have you found any thing in thofe Canons that affirmes the con trary ? Ifyea, why doe you not produce it t If not, why make you fuch a clamour upon no occafion f The Doctor neither there, nor elicwhcre, doth jiuli- fic the Vicars Act,/^ omai^nor indeed in any thing, if he did any thing in this, againft the Canoncbut faith in one (f) place what he did, and in another what hee (fjorf, />.i« thought (l) to be moft convenient. Nor could the Do- ftor but conjecture out of the r re. amble Qt\\\<: letter,
H that
Se&. I.' tjiac fhc V'edr did acquaint the Bijby with his dcfircs, and found from him a toleration at the leaft, if not an approbation, as before I faid. Yet upon this wcakc ground , which will beare no foundation of a folid building, you runnc into a long and vaine difcourfe, of the authority and office of Bifiops, Archdeacons, and Church-wardens : for oftcntation of your reading, and that you have a mindc to traduce the Doctor, aslfhcc
(u)i«i/*r« held fome(uj leftiticatl tenets^ which might in time prove prejudicial to the eflatc ofBiflops. All that I can ' collect from thence, is, that you arc beholding for your obfcrvations to one or more Archdeacons of your ncere acquaintance : who were not willing, as it Teenies, to take all this paines foryou,and doe no ho. nourto thcmfclves. Yctletmee tell you as a friend, you truft them fomewhat farther than a wife man would j and fuffer them to plume themfelvcs with the Bifliops feathers : taking that power unto thcmfelvcs, which you full faine would fixe originally in the Dio- ccf.m. Tor what lay you, from them, to the point, in hand .' whether or not the Vicar ought to meddle with the holy table. It is, lliy you, (*) not tht Ordina ry, but the 1^4 poft lest hcwfit'ves, that have turned the Parfons and Vicars from being attivt in this kinde, to their diviner meditations. It i-s not reafon that we JliottU leave the nordofGcdtofcrve tables. Since when,/r0/w the fir (I DfttCffrtfythen appointed,/* <w (v)prefcnt Arch. deacons (in whcfe office the ancient power of the Deacons if united. ind concentred) Incumbents bavtbeene exclu- dtdfromMtelliH* with the f'ten/ils of the Church, or Or- naiaents cftbf Alitf. But fie you not wit hall, that by this reafon theSifiups arc excluded alfo^ For were they noc thedp4/Hfsto* whom it is affirmcd,that it was no reafon thi« they thouid leave the word of God to
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fcrvc tables? And who fuftainc the place and office of Cap. ^ the Apoftlcs at this day, if not the Bifliops t Sec what credulity ,& too much confidence in your friends hath brought upon you.I qucftio not the matter now,mca- ning to meet with that hereafter. Bcfides, you fuffer your Archdeacons toufc the name of Altar without of- rencejwhich you conceived to be fo capital a crime in Monfieur Vicar. ^Ornaments of the Alt ar^-Thc very '*' **' 7f Alt AT it fe If with the Rail about it,— To wove and remove the Altar: A Itar thrice ufcdin halfapage,8c you check not at it. The reft of your difmembrcd Cc#te,and the good fport you makeyour felf,touching the advancing of the Church-wardens above their Minifter,znd what- foever other mreds you have patched together for . your more delight, are not considerable in this place, or to this purpofc. It is the Doftors undertaking, to anfwer to your arguments,and not your fcorns : Nor loves hc,howfocver you like of it, to have his portion with thofc men that fit in the feat of the fcornfull.
^\\\.nsn\)0num efl ludere cum Sanclis. What fport focver you are plcafcd to make with him ; take heed how you offend againft God and piety. Tic piety of theft times y though you are fully bent to make fporc therewith, is no fuch waking drcame,that you fliould fctyour fclfe to deride it, in fogroflea manner. The Do&or tells us of that letter, that it (a) WM fyrcad a - broad ofpurpofe, the better t» discountenance that unifor- wity offublick Order ^Q which the piety of thefc times
is fo well inclined-, of purpofc to dijlratf the people,
and hinder that good worke is now in hand.1\\\s is the game you have in fccnt , and having taken up the cry, follow it up and downc over all the bookc : not here alone, where ex profejfo you purfuc it, but^g. 1 8 8 . - 15^7.214.228. 8cc. This,bc it what K will, you
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Sect. I. te^ us> *s as (b)>^ l* Abeyance, pendant in tfa ayre, you (b) pag <f4. know not where ; and like yer long to fait upon tttr (C) pag.Bj. heads, but you know not when : (c) thatjtf// have open ed your eyes <is videos poffibly^w can, but cannot dtfst- (^PJ8-»«. verit: Or(d) if there be fuchan efteciall inclination of thefe times to piety, it is a peculiar piety (youaifurcus fo) differing from the piety of former times. And thcre- (0 p-^-Sf. fore you do (c) re*finably presume that this good work in hand isbut the fccondpxrt ofSarttfaClarajtvith whom (t}iAm*fr«id you make the Doctor tamper in points of 0) dotfrinc^ tb»jf judicious as jn tne points tfdtCcipline with fiwtfa-Petr*. But tell
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tvnMYf* wtfti me I belecch you, conceive you uniformity, and «»/- M ttosinne-n-iih formhy of publ'tck Order in the officiating of Gods di- la-^u Clara, vjne fcrvice to [jC no vcodtvorke ? And findc you not
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uj.^ Sin<fu u\<: piety ofthcje times, inclinable in an higher degree Vcna;p.7r. to that uniformity , than any of the times before? When did you ever finde a King, that did fo ferioufly affect Church-wcrkc , or that h-ath more endeavoured to advance that decency and comlincflc in the perfor mance of divincOlfices,which God expeclcth and re quires, than his ficred Majcfty < His owne example in the conftam keeping of the hourcs of prayer, and moft devout behaviour in the aifis thereof : thinkc you they a re not fwect incitements unto all his fubjects, to follow thofe moft pious ftcps in the which he walks? (g) Vd.Patcrr. (tyRetfefacerecives fttos Princeps optima faciendodo- cet. HisMajcfties religious carnage in thchoufe of God, and due obfcrvance of thofc Orders which the law requires in common people, is a more excellent Sermon upon that text , than ever you yet preached on any. T hey muft be needs exceeding dull,or fome- \vhar worfe, which will not profit very much by fuch heavenly doctrine. If you have opened your eyes jo wide, as you fay you have,it is not that you cannot, but you
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will not fecit ; and arc grownc blind, not out of want of fight, but want of piety. Adde to all thefe, the Princely zcale of his magnificent heart, for the repai ring of S. Ptttlsi by which example, queftioolciTe,thc other Churches in this laod will fare the better. And adde to that, his Majeftiesmoft facred care, that in all places where he comes in Progre(Tea what fcantnefle ofroome foevcr was wont to be pretended, no confc- crated place (hall bee prophaned by thofe imploy- ments, to which they havebceneputin the times be fore. And fee you nothing all this while, no good worke, no piety * Then lookc into thole Country Churches, to which his Majeftie in his times of Prt- frcjfc rcpaires moft frequently for hearing and atten ding Gods publick fervicc : leaving the privacy of his own Court,andprcfencc,to fet a copy to his people, how to performe all true humility and religious ob- fervations in the houfc of God.If you fee nothingyet, and that there muftbefomcthmg which hath f polled your eyc-fight;itis the toomuch light you live in : by which you arc fodazcled, that you cannot fee this part of piety, or clfcfo blinded ,that you will not. And we may fny of you in the Poets language, Sunt tencbrtpev tantu lumen clort*. Then to go lorwatds^ffccnttcntfe, can you remember any mtctnpflittn of and in this Church Cand gather all your wits about you) which hath more ferioufly endeavoured to promote that «*/- formity »f publick Order., than his Grace now being f His cares and confultationsto advance this worke,to make H/erttfalem (if fuch as youdifturbed him not) at unity within itfclfe, arc very cafie to be fccne : fo cafic, that it wcic fcnfibilcfuper fen fir/urn pwere , to infiftlongonit. The very clamours railed upon him, by thofe who love nor unity nor uniformity and have
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lJ an art of fifhing with moft profit, in a troubled water j arc better evidence of this, than you have any in your booke to maintaine the caufc. Nor heare wee any of the other beh , which are not willing for their parts to make up the Htrmony j but that great Tom rings out of tune. Tor when did you or any other know the Prelates, generally, more throughly intent upon the work committed to them j more carneft to reduce the fcrvice of this Church to the /indent Orders , ap. pointed in the Common prayer booke '. It is not long {ince , that we hadbuthalfc prayers in moft Chur ches ; and almoft none at all in fome, your friend 7. Cotttns for example. Sec you no alteration in this kinder Is nor the Liturgic more punctually obfcrved of late, in the whole forme and fafhion of Gods fcrvice, than before it was '. Churches more beauti fied and adorned than ever fmcc the "Reformation j the people more conformable to thofe reverend geftures in the houfe of God , which though prcfcribed be fore, were but little pra&ccd '. fjvifquit nen vidct, ceecus j i]ui<qHtS'vidct, ncc Uudtf, ingrattu$ .qttjfqHtt <'n) Aujufi. <Je fondant i rclitftttttr, infants eft ; (u) as the Father hath it. This,if ingratitude to God,andobftinate malice to his Church, hath not made you blindc, youcannot choofc but fee , though you would diftcmble it: And if you fee itjdo you not think it a good work ? and is there not a piety cf ' and in thefe times, which more inclines to the advancement of that workc^ than in the former? \vould any man, that oucly wears a form ofgocilineffc, make this his May-gawft and fcornfully intirlc it the tyimagintrj piety eft he times, 8c tkePlatffrticaU idea of A good work in h<tnd?~fvkc heed, for vuhu Uditurpietas. Laughed you but at it in your flee ve,you had much to anfwerfofi but making it your publickpaftime, you
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make your fclfe obnoxious to the wrath of God and Cap, 3 man,both for the fin and forthcfcandall. And as for thegootlwcrk iitbawljn cafe you will not help it for- wards,(as I doubt you will not) do not difturb it with your factious and fchifmaticall Pamphlets.
Having made merry with your friends, about the inclination efthefe times to piety , and the advance ment of ib good A rrorke as the uniformity of public k order : you pafTc,Iknow not how, to the ^dils And <JMonrtmcnts,zn& thcexamination of fuch palTages as were thence taken by the Doctor. Perhaps youarea better A rtift than I take you for : And being it is Jrtis celarearten* , you meanc to tender to the world fuch an Art of writing, ashathno *m'nit. But thclcflc cunning, the more truth, as we ufc to fry. If we could find it (b, it were fomc amends ; and though I fee but little hope, yet I mcanc to trie. The Doctor told you in his (k) Ctalcfiem the ^sfltar, that " not a few of " thofc which fuffcred death for oppofing the groflc " and carnall doctrine of trAnfubjtantiation, did not *' onely well enough indure the name of o///./r, "but without any doubt or fcruple called the Lords " Suffer fomctimes ufacrifcc, and many times the " Stcrtmentof thc^ltar. So that if they indurcdit well enough, in others, or ufed itthemfelvcs without doubt or fcrufle $ it is as much as was intended by the Doctor. Andforthcproofcofthis, he firft brings in 'John Fryth^ relating in a letter to his private friends, that they his adverfaries examined him touching the Sacrament if the Altar ; whether it was the very boc'y of Ch rift, or no. Thtje are (l) you fay their words, not (1) bis. Why man, whofc words focver they were in the firft propofallj cjoth not he vfe the fame tvit/jeut £o>*bt
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Seft. i. irfcr*ttefGn& youthathe did (tumble atthem,or dif- like the phrafc? Hadhebeenhalfe fo quarrel fomc at thephrafe,as youare, he might havctcftified his dif. like in a word or two j the Sacrament of the ^Itar, at they call it. Your felf inform us from him3thatin fomc cafes,at fomc times, he ufed that qualification, as vtifc />.^o8.ofthc^<7j And Men. I Abided moreover that their Church (& they call it} hath nofuch fower and authority, &c.An Argument there of his diffcnt,none here: their Church as they f4///f, there; the Sacrament of the Altar here 5 no diflike at all. You might have fuflered the poorcmanto reft in peace, ana not have called Mai (mjVouz av« (m)to the bar to fo little purpofe.The fccond witav »ic Fryth, Let him \vnslfhn Lambert, ,who alfo ufed the word or phrafc MwwrtJS *"''' '* t'ttkftruph' (") ^-4' concerning the other fixe Articles I make you the fume anfwcr,that I have done un to the Sacrament of the ^4. /tar, and no other. You quar- rell this, as that before, being you fay (°)their words, not his; and hereunto we make that anfwcr as unto the former: They were their words mpropofititn, his in repetition 5 efpccially the repetition being fuch as fliewcd noJijtikt. But where you tell us of his An- fwer, (pj viz. / neither can nor will anfwer one worded. thereupon inferre, John Lambert an fivers there not o»c ivordforyou:i\u\s\*\M a touch of your old trick, in cut ting fliort quotations when they will not help you. John Lambert being demanded, not whether he ap proved the name of Sacrament of the Altar,\)\.\\. whe ther he thought that in \\\eSacramer)t of the Altar, there w>is the very body and blood of C.hri ft in likcnef of bread tndwine jrcplyed, I neither canne willanfveroneword: what,endshe therc,asyou have made him f. no,by no meanes : 1 neither can ne will an fiver one word (i) 9ther» wife than I have told yett fine e I IVM delivered into your
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/j4ftJs .• which was, that hec would make no anfwer Cap. 3. of what hcc thought, till they brought feme body tt accufe him. John ^Lamberts other teftimony uled by theDoftoris,as followeth. " Chrift being offered " up once for all in his owne perfon , is yet faid to be "offered up, not onely every ycareat£^r, but *' alfo every day in the celebration of the Sacrament, " becaufc his oblation,once for ever made,is thereby "rcprcfcnted. ^8s a»d^49».fArt^.j.^^t Thefe words you challenge as not his. Howfo { Becaufc it followeth in the place. tyEvettfifaitbS. i^tugttJHn. (Op*g-tt. ' Even fo faith S. 'Attgttflin ? what, and ftops he there, asn here onely faid thofc words from that Reverend Father t Hacf itbeenc fo, we had loft nothing by the hand, the words being his in the Original! jmd Lam berts in the Application : but it is not fo. For thus it followeth in thcplacc j " Even fo, faith Augufinc9 is " the Sacrament of Chrifts body 3 the body of " CUrift ; and the Sacrament of Chrifts blood ; the " blood of Chrift in a certain wife or faftiion:i.c.Even «s Chrift offered once for all, is notwithftanding faid to be offered every day in the holy Sacrament j even . fo,faith Aufint is the Sacrament of Chrifts body the body of Chrift. You may call home the Montcb.wk <foroughtlcai fee) which you (f) bcftow upon the (OVomam Doclorjand keep him to your fclfe, till the Dr needs ft*T^.T*
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him. Touching Archb. Cranmer^n you (new us any Bntfrnidyutb^
where,that at the terme orphrafe of Sacrament of the /"<Momc-
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what he (•) there affirms. Andfinceonyourdifcove- CO^/M.
ty, which I thankyoufor,Tfindc itwasM» 'JF^rand
not the Arch Bifhop , which drew up thofc z\\tg<i-
tions againlhhc fix Articles (which following fo im- (»)&«*' Afti
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•fncoiauy QO the Arch Bimops.oppontion(u; to thofe i.p.^j,
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. I ". Articles 9 might very cafily be miftooke for his, by one that is norfo much ftudiedinthebookcas you fccmc to be) wee have loft nothing by the change. I / trow if Mr Fox tookc no offence thereat, you will ! have little thankcs for your grcztprecifeneffc* Oh but, ! (*) pj£.««. ' fay you3thcre followcth («) Cachapeale after it>*u none but A mad-man would cite him for thispurpofe: vlz.This men (Iron* Article of theirs in this forme ofvatrdsas it ftandeth,&c. What? doth /<?/;« Fix call it a monftrout <-x/r/;V/<r,onely becaufc the Sacrament is there called, the Sacrament of the Alttr ? If not, you might have kept your mad-m/in to your fclfe, as you doc your tJttontcbank. This monflrous Article of theirs in the forme of words <u itftandcth, is, that the Sacrament of the i^iltar u the very nAtitrall body of Chrtf, the fclfe fame which rv.ts borne of the Virgin CMary. This you dam out with an &c. to make y our partizans bclccve, that to entitle the Lords Supper, by the name of the Sacrament of the Altar, was in lohn Fox his judgment, a mcnftrous Article. F/ mtgno inpopulo. And yet wee will nor leave youfo, as if Archb. Cranmer had no where called the holy Sacrament by the name of Sa crament of the Altar. For if you look into yourownc Author the Acts & Mon. in tlic proceedings againft Br£0MW,/f*.i545>.f4rt z.youfliall fiade the Archb. fpeaking thus unto the people. " My Laof Lindtn •" would make you bclecve that he is called hither for " declaring and preaching his opinion, touching the *' Sacrament of the Altar : but to the intent you may "perceive how hcegocth about to deceive you, you '* flull-hcarcrhc denunciation that islaidagainfthnn " read unto you. By which you fec,or may fc-cifyou have a mind to it,tlur Archb. Crtnmcr ufcd the name tot Sacrament of the Altar^ without doubt or fcruple.
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In citing of lohnPhilpot, you proceed accordingly. Cap. y. (•)The Doctor told you out of him, "In what re. (a)cw/,;«, if. "fpedls the old Writers doe fometimes call theSa- " crament of the body and blood of Chrift, amongfl "other names which they afcribc thereunto, the <f Sacrawent of the Altar. To this you make reply, (b) that he hath dealt with Philpot, exceeding hardly, (b) pig.f?. cutting off the he ad and feet of ha dffcourft&nd thereby making the ([notation, almoft M true a (JMartyr, AS the man hiwfelfe.ffato. for the heado( hisdifcotirfc,it is no more than this ; <f (c) I muft needs ask a queftion of (c) AAl 3n<* "my ReftondentD<Chadfey, concerning a word or ^-P'"3' " twainc of your fuppofuion : /'. e. of the Sacrament of P " the Altar, what he mcaneth thereby, and whether " he take it,as fonaeof the ancient Writers do,terming the Lords Supper the Sacrament of 'the Alt ar. This is the head. Where (d) is the fhre wd tale it hath to tell ? Doth not the head confefiethat it was called fo by fomc ancient Writers ? And what more finde you in (<)thc belly ? Then for the feete. Demanding (as you /*'"«'*0.< anake him fay) "whether he tookc it as the Ancients [2^»«/% *' did , or for the Sacrament of the ^Itar which is I'hii.fcemcnt "made of lime and ftonc , over which the Sacra- *\"Jt^aUI'tllj' " ment hangcth : and finding that they meant it this "later way, he declares himfelfe, Then / willfieake \ that the Sacrament of the ^A It ar Is no
Sacrament at aH.